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This forum is not for what you are using it for. We have some communication problems. If we could talk face to face for a while in private, most of them could be solved.



Okay, I will mail you in private. Watch your catsailor private mail. I will send a mail to you within 24 hours.

With respect to this forum I will not debate you, only present the info I have on items were you statements are "extremely unique" I do this so novice sailors can weight the comments and judge for themselfs which statement to believe.

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The foot of a real "spinnaker" to me comes all the way back to the rear beam. .... with a large athwartship component which causes lee helm


I say you can easily transport four adults on a typical motorcycle.

Of cours I'm not telling anybody that FOR ME a REAL motorcycle is the kind with 4 wheels, a steering wheel, front and back seats and a trunk. It is not MY problem everybody else prefers to call these a car or automobile nowadays.

Same as with your comment about leehelm and spis


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ARC17 PN Rating---The 70 PN rating for the ARC17 was arrived at by Rick White using U S Sailing Rules. If you have a problem with that, write Darline Hobock.



I don't a problem with the rating per se or with Darline Hobock about it. Only with the way you presented the story before the race and how you presented the win of the ARC afterwards. Before hand you told a poster on this forum that a low 60's PN rating was a realist one for the new ARC-17. Than when Rick gives you the 71 rating (Low 70's) you of course immediately requested that Rick would scored you at the more realistic rating; just to make things fair to the other racers ? I guess Rick refused to give you a faster rating ?

Of course afterward all other designs didn't know what they were doing because well you beat them on a 70's technology cat (your words) than was newly designed in 2002/2003 and was using a rtign of 71 when the makes of other designers were all sailing of mid and low 60 numbers !

Simply put you would NOT have won that regatta if you would have sailed of your own admitted realistic rating. The boats of other designers would have beaten you.

That is the whole story you aren't telling novices on this forum.

That is the issue I have with you and your public postings on this forum. This has nothing to do with Rick White and Darline Hobock who both do excellent work. Don't hide behind them.


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Texel speed record--- I do not live in Holland. I only know about the speed record that I set in a real race on race day around the Isle of Texel.



You are not named as a record holder. As far as we can tell you never set a record at Texel. Sorry there is simply no paper trail. However I WILL contact my friends at the Texel committee and see if they can confirm your claim.

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The details of setting a race record on a non race day with no competition and in a totally different environment from a real race, I know nothing about. This seems strange to me, maybe a little hollow or false.



Yet you have quote the SC20 record set at Texel OUTSIDE the race format many times on this forum. So either all is admissable or you'll loose the SC20 record as well.


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My being so "sure about things" is your interpretation---I do know when ARC put the items into production that you listed. I have never seen A NACRA self tacking jib.



But only a few posts ago you were certain that trend of the selftacking jibs on beach cats could be tracked back to a single arc22 going to France in earlier 90's.

Which one is it ? You know for certain or you don't know for certain. Or respectively you can write these claims in post with ground or you can not.


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Possibly this was on a few boats in California only.



Probably it was only featured on a handful of ARC 22 ?

You see how all these things just immediately point back at yourself ?



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I can see that a self tacking jib with the tack up at the top of the forestay bridle and the clew down at the main beam would be a small sail with a short luff and not very high performance.



Yet all F18's and F20's incl US I-20 are using this very system and are beating Tornado's and you on elapsed time while sailing an SC or ARC cat ? Of course you nail them on handicaps but we already discussed this issue.

Surely this qualifies them as high performance designs ? If mean if they are not and they beat you on elasped time than your designs are not as well.

Pointing back, pointing back, pointing back. It never stops.


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The track bent to the radius of the foot of the jib requires the additional control line to set the position of the jib car along the traveller track. I've experimented with them all, Wouter, prior to 1992.



How many times do I need to repeat myself. I and several others have CURVED track and DO NOT have a second control line to position the jib car along the track. I'm in good company as mr Darren Bundock uses the same setup.

I've told you this is 4 different posts now but you still keep telling everybody that you can't have a curved track without a second control line. How big a plate can you have in front of your eyes ?


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Wouter, I think this is enough of this spewing of hot air and challenge over things that are not important.



This is not hot air this is about propelling falshoods and sending off novice sailor on a wild goose chase in serious business. It is very much important that it is clear which parts of your comments are true and which are obviously in conflict with reality. So excuse me for being a little fanatical here.


You may consider that we are in agrrement with regard to all other points and statement you made in your post. I would only react to your "Unique remarks"


Wouter





Wouter Hijink
Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild)
The Netherlands