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#105009 04/30/07 10:02 AM 04/30/07 10:02 AM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | The single greatest feature of the Inter 20 I found was it's stability in unstable conditions. With 20 feet of hull and big fat bows, you can relly push it hard going downwind. You can easily de-power it upwind too. It's nearly impossible to overload it. It drives like a Cadilac, smooth and fast. It's not a light, twitchy boat like the F18HT's or A cats, which will usually beat the I-20 to the A mark, but when you pull that big spinnaker out and point it downwind, it will take you on the ride of your life, with complete stability in big wind and waves.
The one big drawback is the same as for the F18's, it weighs nearly 400lbs and you must race it two up, per the rules, not because it takes two to sail it, it certainly does not take two in light to medium wind. I used to sail mine solo here on a lake in up to 17 knots, and yes, I did right it solo many times. It is a great ride and on a distance race it won't beat you to death.
They are getting expensive. I have heard rumors of $19,000 for a new boat. That's why you can't find a used one.
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#105010 04/30/07 10:11 AM 04/30/07 10:11 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | The only time I felt a little helpless and on the edge of control on an I20 was downwind with it gusts to 34-36 knots.
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#105011 04/30/07 10:15 AM 04/30/07 10:15 AM |
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Posts: 3,348 | The only time I felt a little helpless and on the edge of control on an I20 was downwind with it gusts to 34-36 knots. AHA! The best reason to stay away from the I-20s is the skippers are all nuts! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Sign me, I. B. Wuss. | | | Re: I20
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#105013 04/30/07 11:10 AM 04/30/07 11:10 AM |
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Posts: 3,348 | AHA! The best reason to stay away from the I-20s is the skippers are all nuts!
Completely - Do you recall the conditions pictured here? Trying to analyze photos again! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: I20
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#105015 04/30/07 11:14 AM 04/30/07 11:14 AM |
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,718 St Petersburg FL Robi
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Posts: 2,718 St Petersburg FL | That main has too much twist. Certainly not fast. Crew looks to happy (smiling) that means more butt whooping is needed. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#105016 04/30/07 11:42 AM 04/30/07 11:42 AM |
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl ksurfer2
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | Hey! I resemble that remark!!!!!!!
If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one | | | Re: I20
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#105018 04/30/07 01:06 PM 04/30/07 01:06 PM |
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Posts: 1,226 Atlanta | My crew just sold his i20 and I'm reading this thinking, I wish he hadnt sold it. I miss that boat already.
The i20 is fun downwind in the medium winds, like 10-12, when the crew is down on the leeward hull, mostly underwater, goggles on, trimming between fire hose blasts, the skipper is up high and dry, warm sunshine on my face, steering, hull out of the water, ahhhh, good times, good times.
I actually considered getting him a snorkel, perhaps thats why he sold it. | | | Re: I20
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#105019 04/30/07 01:26 PM 04/30/07 01:26 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | That main has too much twist. Certainly not fast. Crew looks to happy (smiling) that means more butt whooping is needed. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Definitely - crew is way to happy.
Jake Kohl | | | I sense that I had missed something.
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#105021 04/30/07 03:03 PM 04/30/07 03:03 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | What no Miami talk ,figured you F16 (not Taipan) Blade people would be all over that result with L.Lawrence he sailed it very quickly......
I get a feeling that there is something to know here. So I went to the Miami Key Largo homepage : http://miamiyachtclub.net/regattas/miamikeylargo/race.htmAnd looked up the race results : http://miamiyachtclub.net/regattas/miamikeylargo/mklresults2007.pdfAnd what do you know : Luke Lawrence, sailing a Blade F16, finished 7th on handicap in a fleet of 42 beach cats. In this fleet 24 cats were 19, 20, 21, 23, 27 and 30 feet in length. Luke and his crew beat 17 of them on elapsed time ! Who said the Blade F16 can't do distance races in light winds and be competitive ? And he did it in 5-10 mph winds. Was Luke sailing with Caroline Wright ? Also note the other youth sailor Sarah Newbury on the tornado at 3rd spot in both listings. The youths are doing excellent here. Results on handicap are (first 10) -1- Roberts, Eric RC-30 5:21:34 -2- Philips, Michael Marstrom M-20 5:20:02 [color:"blue"]-3- Newberry, Sarah Tornado 5:51:03 [/color] -4- Sonnenklar, Jay Inter-20 6:11:01 -5- Mayo, Clive Marstrom M-18 6:25:44 -7- Moss, Bret A Class + SPIN 6:27:01 [color:"red"]-8- Lawrence, Luke Blade F16 (2-up) 6:35:02 [/color] On elapsed time the results are (first 10): -1- Roberts, Eric RC-30 2:50:45 -2- Philips, Michael Marstrom M-20 3:05:37 [color:"blue"] -3- Newberry, Sarah Tornado 3:27:07 [/color] -4- Sonnenklar, Jay Inter-20 3:40:01 -5- Sonneklar, Jared Inter-20 3:59:05 -6- Mayo, Clive Marstrom M-18 3:59:09 -7- Moss, Bret A Class + SPIN 3:59:57 -8- Greene, Terry Inter-20 4:01:47 -9-Leonard, Joe Inter-20 4:02:15 [color:"red"]-10- Lawrence, Luke Blade F16 (2-up) 4:17:34 [/color] Also note how close the doublehanded F16 stayed to the singlehanded M-18 and A-cat+spi, again in 5-10 mph winds ? At least all that carbon looks good ! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Wouter
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#105023 04/30/07 03:35 PM 04/30/07 03:35 PM |
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Posts: 3,348 | . . . the boat formerly known as the Inter 20. So what is it known as now? | | | Re: I sense that I had missed something.
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#105024 04/30/07 03:38 PM 04/30/07 03:38 PM |
Joined: May 2002 Posts: 3,114 BANNED MauganN20
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | So what is it known as now?
200 kg barge ! Haven't you been paying attention Tiki ? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Wouter
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#105026 04/30/07 03:56 PM 04/30/07 03:56 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 829 Charleston, SC NCSUtrey
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Posts: 829 Charleston, SC | We'll see how the F16 fairs when its Portsmouth numbers take a good hit in the near future...
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#105027 04/30/07 03:58 PM 04/30/07 03:58 PM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Do they use Alter Cup elapsed times to calculate DPN?
I would think that it would be a good start, as you would have some of the finest crews out there on an official course in a variety of conditions.
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#105028 04/30/07 04:14 PM 04/30/07 04:14 PM |
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Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA | Doesn't it take fleets of mixed type/brand of boats (as you would be comparing performance over the same course, conditions, etc.) to be used for Portsmouth rating calculations? Just guessing here....
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