| A-cat - Luff track problem #106076 05/06/07 09:15 PM 05/06/07 09:15 PM |
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 118 St. Louis, MO JoeLeonard OP
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Posts: 118 St. Louis, MO | Problem...certain I'm not the first...looking for the best solution: Boat - Boyer/Auscat Mark V Mast - Applied Composites Sails - two different sails - same problem Problem - while sailing the bolt rope starts to pull out of the mast...starting at the bottom, just above the entry slot and then slowly working up the mast / luff.
I'm looking for solid advice from others who have seen or experienced the same thing.
Thanks!!
JL
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#106079 05/07/07 04:52 AM 05/07/07 04:52 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Same as USA 197 says but I know this problem in combination with mainsheet pressure.
Comes from the boom having an angle relative to the foot of the mainsail. It the foot is tight when the boom is still angled upwards somewhat then applying mainsheet tension will straighten the boom (relative to the foot) and thus require the foot of the sail to stretch (which it can't) or pop out of the sail track (which happens instead).
Solution : know where to trim the outhaul before indeed applying mainsheet (downhaul) pressure.
Wouter
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#106080 05/07/07 06:50 AM 05/07/07 06:50 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | second that - watch the outhaul. It will happen on any boat that doesn't have a limiter on the outhaul (the Inter's usually have a limiter line that you can restrain the outhaul so it doesn't go past the point of no return).
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#106081 05/07/07 08:02 AM 05/07/07 08:02 AM |
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Posts: 118 St. Louis, MO | Yes on Carbon... no on cracks....although the inside of the luff track is tapered a bit at the entry slot, I presume for ease of boltrope entry, although I might be inclined to fill in the taper if I thought I could get it right.
I undoubtedly have been guilty of overtightening the outhaul based on what you guys are saying....that's an easy fix. I'll apply the lesson learned next weekend.
JL
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#106082 05/07/07 03:06 PM 05/07/07 03:06 PM |
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA dacarls
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Posts: 805 Gainesville, FL 32607 USA | A-cat sails have a polyethylene tube sewn into the luff, 5/16 inch (8 mm) in Bimare/Zuccoli sails: there are 30 cm lengths of line sewn inside at the bottom and top to keep tubing from collapsing. The luff track slot is thin, and using tubing that is too large will NOT work. If the tubing gets a little crushed or bent, it is much more difficult to push the sail up. AND it may pull out under tension, as you described. If so, put a strap around the front of the mast, or a bungee or a line through the clew, and tie it snugly but not too tight. IUt will not pull out then.
This tubing is larger at 3/8 inch in Ullmans, Ashby etc to match the larger luff track in Hall, Composite, Fiberform masts etc. Same problem, same solution: Either check and replace the tubing if crushed ($20) with polyethylene or harder polypropylene with 1/16 inch wall thickness. IMHO 8 mm or 10 mm tubing is too weak with 1 mm walls and will not be satisfactory. Dont outhaul too much anyway....= wrong.
Dave Carlson USA 196
Dacarls: A-class USA 196, USA 21, H18, H16 "Nothing that's any good works by itself. You got to make the damn thing work"- Thomas Edison
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