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#111073 07/09/07 06:34 PM 07/09/07 06:34 PM |
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 337 Victoria, Australia C2 Mike
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Posts: 337 Victoria, Australia | Heading out thru the surf. Hit a 6' wave straight on while powered up. The wave broke across the front crossbar and as the boat rose the pole snapped in half. I can't see that I could have done anything differently. If I turned the wave would hit me sideways so straight into it was the only option, IMO. Is there a proper way to drive a end pole snuffer thru waves without breaking it? Wow - that must have been a steep wave. I doubt there was much you could do - maybe a mid pole would help. Thats all I can think of. Tiger Mike | | | Re: broke my spin pole!
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#111076 07/10/07 09:20 AM 07/10/07 09:20 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, Mike Hill
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | I saw it happen at Virgina Beach F18 Nationals a couple years ago. A couple of youth sailors were just sitting around between races. Not much wind. Dare I say that it was at least 5 knots. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> A wave came out of nowhere while they were just laying in the middle of the tramp and put the bow down and snapped the pole in an instant. The wave was pretty minor too. I think the flat water exasperated the situation because it just flung the boat down and rocked the end pole snuffer into the water. Very sad really.
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#111078 07/10/07 09:48 AM 07/10/07 09:48 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Dare I say that it was at least 5 knots. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Yes, you dare. And so do I. That end-pole offers an awful lot of resistance in water... there are only a few left, AFAIK, and it isn't something that is stocked anymore. I think Mike Fahle had a line on someone who could make replacements - Mike? I had that same style snuffer head on the 4.3, though I kept it a lot higher than the Nacra boats do. It still dug in more than once and compounded already bad pitch-poles. I'd agree with anyone who suggested you replace it with a mid-pole set up, even though that means getting your patches moved on the 'chute.
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#111079 07/10/07 10:04 AM 07/10/07 10:04 AM |
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | I'd agree with anyone who suggested you replace it with a mid-pole set up, even though that means getting your patches moved on the 'chute. You don't necessarily need to add a patch if you make the bag long enough <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: broke my spin pole!
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#111080 07/10/07 11:41 AM 07/10/07 11:41 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I'd agree with anyone who suggested you replace it with a mid-pole set up, even though that means getting your patches moved on the 'chute. You don't necessarily need to add a patch if you make the bag long enough <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> And what? Douse while facing backwards? At least the crew could see the last second display of shock on the skippers face before impact.
Jake Kohl | | | Re: broke my spin pole!
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#111084 07/10/07 10:52 PM 07/10/07 10:52 PM |
Joined: Oct 2002 Posts: 606 Maryland Kris Hathaway
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Posts: 606 Maryland | Problem I have with replacing spin pole is shipping. Recently, had to replace mine only to find out that shipping would be more than the pole itself. UPS frowns at anything more than 6 feet. Fortunately, a local merchant had one in stock.
Kris Hathaway | | | Re: broke my spin pole!
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#111085 07/10/07 11:32 PM 07/10/07 11:32 PM |
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 62 s. cackalacky Bonnie
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Posts: 62 s. cackalacky | Dare I say that it was at least 5 knots. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Yes, you dare. And so do I. But was it 5 knots at every point on the course? Wait, Magic 8 Balls can be used as wind meters, right? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: broke my spin pole!
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#111087 07/11/07 02:16 PM 07/11/07 02:16 PM |
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 2,921 Michigan PTP
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Posts: 2,921 Michigan | I don't think it will make much of a difference but the engineers around could give you a better idea. One other thing to consider is that the aluminum from those places is not anodized (I assume you are going with onlinemetals). This isn't that big of a deal IMO. BIggest drawback is that it gets your hands dirty if you handle it alot... but once again, I'll defer to the engineers.
p.s. someone else had a good point about shipping. I am not sure where you are but you can sometimes find old windsurfer masts that would work or a metal supply store around that might have something that would work and save you the shipping.
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#111088 07/11/07 02:22 PM 07/11/07 02:22 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Thanks so much for the links! Heres what I've found so far...my broken pole is 40mm OD 1.8mm wall and 34.8mm ID. I found a piece thats 38.1mm OD 1.65mm wall and 34.8mm ID, my concern is that the wall is too thin. Will .15mm make a huge strength difference? Price is $59.40 plus $25 shipping as I only need 9'. You already broke one with the thicker wall...so the engineer in me says that the thinner one will not hold up any better. But for reference all the Nacra poles (N20, F18, etc) are .0625in wall (1.65mm)
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