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#120319 10/17/07 05:39 AM 10/17/07 05:39 AM | Anonymous
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Unregistered | I'd be surprised. The videos I've seen gave me the impression that the Weta has a tendency to trip over the outer hull at speed. I can't find the video I'm thinking of. There was one taken on Lake Pupuke but it doesn't seem to be on their website. Maybe I saw it somewhere else. | | | Re: Weta tri vs F-16..
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#120322 10/17/07 09:23 AM 10/17/07 09:23 AM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | We know Dirk indeed,
When I read the race report it says the F16's started 70-48 = 22 minutes behind the weta's. T the finish line the F16 was 1 min 15 sec behing the first boat (a weta) sailed by Dirk. In short it was a staggered start were the start time was relative to your handicap. This some impressive speed by the weta though ! 21 minutes lost during 150 minutes of sailing = only 14 Texel handicap points slower then the F16's.
The weta's Texel handicap is about 130 so the weta did sail alot faster then its rating or the F16's sailed alot slower then their ratings.
Wouter
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#120323 10/17/07 09:42 AM 10/17/07 09:42 AM | Anonymous
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Unregistered | However it makes perfect sense to a NZer! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> ![[Linked Image]](http://weta.boarsnest.net/coverpic.jpg) | | | Re: Weta tri vs F-16..
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#120324 10/17/07 02:49 PM 10/17/07 02:49 PM |
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#120325 10/17/07 03:15 PM 10/17/07 03:15 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Boy, they really need to put much larger Ama's on that thing if they are going to race it in that much wind. It does look fast...when it's upright, but as I've said before, swimming is slow. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
And did you see how quickly it went turtle? How do they right it after that happens? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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#120327 10/17/07 06:36 PM 10/17/07 06:36 PM |
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After seeing that video, I agree, there needs to be alot more volume in the ama's. You can even see the ama being completely pushed under (capsize) when being loaded up upwind.
Submerging the ama's that far and that quickly when broad reaching can indeed only end in a pitchpole. Nothing stops a sailboat then dragggin a 2.5 inch tube with attached trampoline through the water.
Basically a nice concept but it could do with a few refinements here and there.
Wouter
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#120328 10/17/07 08:42 PM 10/17/07 08:42 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | The should replace those little amas with hulls off a Blade, then you would see it fly!
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#120329 10/19/07 06:31 AM 10/19/07 06:31 AM |
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Posts: 207 couldn't resist it | have you checked the spec on the weta ??
its got no sail !!!!!! its very short
and they craftily don't give its all up weight .
Praps it can win on handicap , but so too can an optimist !
Its hardly worthy of consideration against a highly developed powered up cat
looks more like a "fun boat " for beginers to mess around with - 14.5m sail area TOTAL for off wind , thats smaller than most cats spin alone !!!!
hare and tortoise spring to mind .
as for "The should replace those little amas with hulls off a Blade, then you would see it fly! "
yeah and get rid of the middle hull , throw away the toytown rig and fit a f16 rig and then it will fly !
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#120330 10/19/07 08:30 AM 10/19/07 08:30 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Chill Codblow, it was a joke. Nobody's going to waste a good F16 on that thing. I have seen several plastic trimarans and they all suffer from ama's that are just too small when the wind is blowing, including that Hobie thing with the foot pedals.
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#120331 10/19/07 11:34 AM 10/19/07 11:34 AM |
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Posts: 61 | Wasnt the Hobue thing with pedals a trifoiler? Why have big amas on a foiler or is there another thingy to steer with your feet
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#120332 10/19/07 05:23 PM 10/19/07 05:23 PM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Two different Hobie thingys. They do make a tri foiler but I was talking about their pedal kyak with sail rig and amas, wich are much too small in a good breeze.
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