Welcome once again to the annual One Design Survey Corrections post.
The Flying Scott, Albacore and Interlake classes need correction.

I neglected to combine the Championship and Challenger fleet in the Flying Scott. The two fleets combined come to 101 boats. I made a simmilar mistake with he Interlake class.

I missed the Albacore US Nationals and used the Canadians. The US Nationals had 50 boats. This was a bit more than the Canadians this year because the US Nationals was just before the class International Championship. Some UK boats were in the mix.

The new corrected list with three year averages is as follows.

1) MC Scow-82.33
2) Thistle-81.33
3) Radial-81.00
4) Laser-80.67
5) Lightning-72.33
6) Sunfish-66.67
7) Flying Scott-65.33
8) E Scow-63.33
9) J/22-61.00
10) Snipe-59.67
11) Hobie 16-58.00
12) 29er-56.67
13) Star-56.33
14) C Scow-53.67
15) J/2451.67
16) Interlake-49.00
17) Albacore-47.33
18) Lido 14-46.33
19) Melges 24-45.67
20) J/105-45.00
21) Etchells-43.00
21) Butterfly-43.00
21) Vanguard 15-43.00
24) Inter Club-40.33
25) Y Flyer-40.00

For rules on scoring check the link.
http://www.sailinganarchy.com/fringe/2007/...OD%20survey.htm

Send more corrections if you have them.

A comment was made in another thread about the relative class strenghts of the catamarans.

As we move forward in 2008 with issues for US Sailing and ISAF about the Olympics, and with our local clubs and Regional Sailing Authorities on Racing Events and Junior programs ... we should keep in mind that we really are a VERY small portion of the competivie sailing world in the USA.

RogerJolly's Annual one design survey is now out.

One Design Class Survey

Bottom Line only the Hobie 16 Class makes it into the top 25 with a running three year average above 40 boats.


Seems to me... that our classes need to do a better job of organizing our efforts and commiting to supporting our classes if we want to grow our portion of the sport.

Hell... the 29ner class is less then 10 years old and they have as many committed sailors as the Hobie 16 class which is going on 40!

But here we go again... Bim is annoucing another F16 like boat...BUT it doesn't conform to the F16 class rule... OR to the Level rated class of Nacra 17/ Hobie FX1 extreme's either...

Mark

Yeah, and negativity has nothing to do with class strenth. Your attitude is all wrong. How about rejoycing in the fact that the H16 came in at #11. It is the stepping stone for other cats.

Perhaps I'm a tool, but I've noticed that many MC owners do less recreational sailing, while cat owners tend to do more recreational sailing........

Ther If it takes 40 boats at Nationals to get on the scoreboard what is your class doing to achieve that milestone?
.... What are the growth strategies for these classes?

Sounds like you have a lot going on there Lee. You were thrown out of a Hobie event with a Hobie boat, that I can see as unfair.

Then, you are complaining about not getting into a Hobie event with a non-Hobie. That's where you're losing me.

This is tough for a lot of people to accept (as the past few years have clearly shown), but genuinely, the Hobie-only policy is NOT about people, it's about the boats. No one wants to turn anyone away, we just want them to come to Hobie events sailing, I don't know... HOBIE CATS?!?!?!?

The irony here is that in this single thread, there are complaints about cat classes not being built, then complaints about a cat class that tried to do something to discourage further splitting of the few Hobie classes that remain...

Rolf is 100% right, and others here have mentioned this important point in other threads. We're very fortunate to have very dedicated volunteers to make the Hobie class a success.

Mike