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F16 Blade for Sale #155583
09/21/08 09:55 PM
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South Carolina, USA
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I have a 2005 F16 Blade for sale. 2 sets of sails trailer and a lot of goodies. I am asking $9,800. Call 864-313-0412 for details.

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Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: Corksfloat] #155584
09/22/08 04:59 AM
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Hu, see the classified link on the menu? Yeah, that one. Try it <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: Corksfloat] #155585
09/23/08 11:06 AM
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why you selling so soon?

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: PTP] #155586
09/24/08 12:41 PM
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Naples, FL
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I thought 701 belonged to Robi?


Jay

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155587
09/24/08 02:18 PM
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Robi sold it last year. I think(noticed I said think) he got a Capricorn to replace the Blade or at least went F18.




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Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: mikeborden] #155588
09/24/08 02:33 PM
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so now he has to find crew....?


Jay

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155589
09/24/08 02:36 PM
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He has a family member he wants to teach to sail. Nephew maybe.

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: fin.] #155590
09/24/08 03:09 PM
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You still sailing your Blade, right Pete?

Those things are small enough to fit in a 'standard' two car garage (except the mast), which can be advantageous in these here parts...


Jay

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155591
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Yep, still sailing my Blade. It is at GYC.

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: fin.] #155592
09/25/08 01:53 AM
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That picture is me, sailing blade 701 at Lake Eustis I beleive it was 2007? Pete do you remember what year it was?

This boat was sold in Dec 2007, to Neville who is now selling it.

I had intentions on purchasing another F16, but the F18 deal was so good I couldnt pass it up. Plus being boatless played another huge factor. So far, the crew issue for me has not been a problem. Specially now that I am teaching my nephew how to sail.

FYI: blade 701 was truly optimized and modified for uni-rig sailing.

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: Robi] #155593
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Not sure, '06 maybe?

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: fin.] #155594
10/06/08 03:39 PM
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what's the "kevlar hull" option on the Blade F16 website? Is it kevlar reinforced on the bottom or the whole thing?

Are the hulls any more/less ding or pressure dent resistant than any other sandwich construction boat (Taipan, F-18, etc)? Are the daggarboard trunks reinforced so you snap a board rather than destroy a hull?


Jay

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155595
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The builder has detailed and accurate information about the construction and durability of what he builds.

If you want reliable answers you may be better off putting your questions to the builder of the boat you are interested in. This really goes for any boat at all that you are thinking of buying.

Regards,
Phill

Last edited by phill; 10/06/08 04:12 PM.

I know that the voices in my head aint real,
but they have some pretty good ideas.
There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: phill] #155596
10/06/08 05:43 PM
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Are you sure that you don't want to offer up an opinion on Kevlar for boat building in regards to dent resistance, Phill?

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: bobcat] #155597
10/07/08 10:35 AM
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I will say that Matt is very good at customer relations. He sent a response to my questions relatively quickly and his answer was thorough.

I agree with his opinion that due to the foam core sandwich construction of today's beachcats (all sizes), that "dent proof" is technically impossible (unless your boat is very very heavy)


Jay

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155598
10/07/08 10:45 AM
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If you want dent-proof or all details on the construction, there is only one solution. Build the boat in wood and do it yourself <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Seriously, foam boats can dent and wood boats have their own issues. Dents are usually caused by point loads (knees, elbows etc), and you need a lot of fibers to stop the core from crushing. Treat the boat with respect and care for it, and dents will not be an issue. If you do get a dent despite being carful, fix it and pay the 100gram weight penalty of added epoxy and filler.

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: Rolf_Nilsen] #155599
10/07/08 01:34 PM
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I agree, and realize it's unavoidable.

I do take issue with those claims that a particular boat is "bullet-proof"... I believe claims were made regarding the Taipan's construction...


Jay

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155600
10/07/08 04:02 PM
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I believe the term bullet-proof is not often used in combination with the Taipan, although the laminate work of the AHPC Taipan is surprisingly robust, especially for a 102 kg boat. I do believe many comments are indeed made to that effect.

Wouter


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Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155601
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Robi, Tback and I put the boats through some pretty rough handling when we first started. No structural damage that I recall. So they're tough enough for me. However, you can catapault the crew completely through the sail. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Re: F16 Blade for Sale [Re: waterbug_wpb] #155602
10/07/08 04:40 PM
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I agree, and realize it's unavoidable.

I do take issue with those claims that a particular boat is "bullet-proof"... I believe claims were made regarding the Taipan's construction...


I can confirm that for a foam core boat, the kevlar taipans are amazingly robust.


Eric Poulsen
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