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#156291 10/05/08 09:24 AM 10/05/08 09:24 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Now Stephen knows which cat REAL men are sailing ! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
F16 with spinnaker 1-up in a blow; there is nothing like it.
Don't let it beat you Stephen, get back on that horse as soon as you can and bend it to your control !
Wouter
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Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#156294 10/06/08 03:21 AM 10/06/08 03:21 AM |
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Hope you are OK, Will you get the chance to have another go?
It is worth putting the effort in; I sailed my Inter 17 for 6 years before getting the F16 that helped, but I still did a fair bit of swimming to start with.
I'm sure even Wouter swims now and again....
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#156297 10/06/08 10:54 AM 10/06/08 10:54 AM |
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Dear Wouter went swimming 6 times on the third day of the 2007 GC in only 2 races ! The only glory I can lay claim to that day is that I righted my boat singlehanded and unaided all times and finally sailed it back to safety without any help (or crew). Boy was I beat ! Muscles trembling ! And yep it was blowing dogs off chains then as well and I did pull the kite in all. Actually I never flipped in teh kite manouvres but always later on when tripping over a wave. But going swimming is not the point. Just as with rodeo, the true character is to be found in finding the strength to get back on that horse and continue. Once the skills has been mastered you have got alot of fall-downs to further glorify the achievement ! Wouter
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Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
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#156298 10/06/08 11:03 AM 10/06/08 11:03 AM |
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Posts: 954 Mumbles Y.C Wales U.K | I've been sailing F16's since 02 (well Stealth R originally) and I still end up swimming more than most!! Guess I must be crap <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> MP*MULTIHULLS | | | Re: F16 Crash course
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#156301 10/06/08 07:51 PM 10/06/08 07:51 PM |
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Dear Wouter went swimming 6 times on the third day of the 2007 GC in only 2 races ! The only glory I can lay claim to that day is that I righted my boat singlehanded and unaided all times and finally sailed it back to safety without any help (or crew). Boy was I beat ! Muscles trembling ! And yep it was blowing dogs off chains then as well and I did pull the kite in all. Actually I never flipped in teh kite manouvres but always later on when tripping over a wave. But going swimming is not the point. Just as with rodeo, the true character is to be found in finding the strength to get back on that horse and continue. Once the skills has been mastered you have got alot of fall-downs to further glorify the achievement ! Wouter Bah! If I don't get into double figures nowadays when going for a sail I know I have had a good day. | | | Re: F16 Crash course
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#156302 10/08/08 03:45 AM 10/08/08 03:45 AM |
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Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia | LOL, relax Wouter, it was a joy to sail. I have been a bit quiet lately because my girlfriend’s parents have been in town (from NZ) and I guess it would have been bad manners to ignore them to keep you up to date.
Initially, I was wondering how you cope around the cans setting, gybing and dropping the kite solo but jumped in and realised it is actually a piece of cake. Setting and dropping I just tucked the tiller extension between my calves and hamies whist on my knees and rocked side to side to make any necessary directional changes. This was minimal as the boat tracked very straight. Gybes, well picking up the lazy sheet , dropping the ex loaded one after the gybe and sheeting the new one was very quick. I also found all the sheet and halyard loads very light after stepping of the F18s and Tornadoes. Hardly surprising with smaller sail area, less weight and less load on the boat.
Before the race in about 8 to 10 knots I set the kite heading out to the start and went through a few gybes then a drop. Rounded up and headed upwind until I met up with Garry steaming down under kite, turned around and ran alongside on a few gybes.
Race 1, I left my start watch on the beach so ran with the fleet on the line. First race I was over with several others and a General is called. 2nd start and I get a good start half way down the line trying to avoid some of the fun and games people were playing at the boat end. Garry got smashed on the start at the boat end and left in irons as the fleet took off. Those who started down the line sailed into a filthy header whilst a few late starters on the boat end (including Garry) found themself on a healthy lift all the way to the top mark on a single tack.
The breeze at this stage started to gust up to 15 knots and swung a long way to the right. The reach across the top mark to the clearance mark turned into a square run with the downwind leg being too tight to hold all the way under kite for the solo F16s. I swam twice at the clearance mark as I set on the run across to the clearance mark, attempting to gybe immediately, before gathering enough boat speed to execute the gybe safely and got knocked down exiting the gybe. I quickly learned to go into the gybes aggressively with max boat speed to avoid this..... Not much weight to hold the boat down on a solo F16, especially when you are still fairly central on the tramp. On my second swim, Garry joined me in the drink after finding the bottom whilst strung out on a downwind. I guess he will tell you more. Course completed but finished down the back of the fleet.
Second race came in fresh with some big bullets coming down the course. I tacked of fairly soon to the right to take advantage of the lifts along the shore line and extra pressure. I found myself at the top end of the fleet and did not think twice about setting the kite. It was time for a bit of redemption. Some of the F18s and Garry elected not to fly the kite in this race which was probably a very good move. On the 3rd and final downwind, a big bullet hit and I stuck both bows in. I folded the kite but found this to be a bad move as the main without kite rounded the boat up and over I went. With thoughts of going through Phill’s main sail in mind, I jumped behind the main but managed to break the tiller cross bar in the process.
I kicked up one rudder and righted the boat but could not steer it into the wind and over it went again. I elected to play it safe and drop the main sail, right the boat and get towed in. Unfortunately after 3 swims and climbing onto the hulls about 8 times, my back started to give me some trouble. I went into the regatta recovering (and starting to look good) from a back injury which I have been suffering from for the last 6 months. I decided not to risk it any further and spend some time up there with my girlfriend and her parents. The rest of the regatta forecast looked spectacular and tailor made for the F16s with what looked like about 10 to 15 knots on Saturday.
I am yet to see the regatta results, but I know the Goodall’s on the Viper were really giving it to the top of the F18 fleet. On the A class, Steve Brewin was leading a healthy fleet of about 20 boats with some big names on board with 3 wins on Saturday.
In the end, I managed to experience the F16 in a range of conditions from 8 to 25 knots and really enjoyed it. The boat was fast, responsive, had very well laid out systems and was very manageable solo. I could very easily see myself on an F16 in the future and the search for my new boat will begin after I move down to Melbourne. | | | Re: F16 Crash course
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#156303 10/08/08 04:02 AM 10/08/08 04:02 AM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Stephen,
8 climbs back on board ! You are my hero !
Did you do some trapezing under spi as well (Not something I do regulary myself though)
Brilliant report, thanks
Best of luck and enjoyment,
Wouter
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#156304 10/08/08 04:08 AM 10/08/08 04:08 AM |
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Posts: 1,669 Melbourne, Australia | Did you do some trapezing under spi as well (Not something I do regulary myself though)
Is there any other way to sail them <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: F16 Crash course
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#156305 10/08/08 04:10 AM 10/08/08 04:10 AM |
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Ha ha ha ! Good return ! I respect that ! Wouter
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#156306 10/08/08 04:27 AM 10/08/08 04:27 AM | Anonymous
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haven't you all been having fun while I have been driving and sailing (in almost equal quantities), all this stirring I have been missing out on, not fair. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
Wouldn't want to go off topic, so I will post a brief report on the Wildcat thread I started before the event. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: F16 Crash course
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#156307 10/08/08 07:52 AM 10/08/08 07:52 AM |
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Is there any other way to sail them <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Mate, if you didn't do that, I would have to come back and kick your butt! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> | | |
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