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#15711 01/30/03 09:36 AM 01/30/03 09:36 AM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Beautiful boat!
I liked especially the tilt back daggerboard style rudder - this could become a future standard for multis (and high speed monos), if light enough.
The design is conservative, keeping most of the old (tried and proved) features of the F-boats. This is a comercially adequate choice, given the market segment they are aimed for - cruising.
I also noticed the following technical improvements:
- Float's center of flotation moved forward - Float's deck flush with the hull and more rounded - No recess for the beams - Only professional building allowed - Less exposed upper struts
The 5 new features are shared with the Catris and some of them also with other modern tris, so I assume the F-Boats are being designed with a more modern view.
The changes are atributable to the natural evolution of the concept - but very probably to the competition too. It is clear that the f-boat design is improving in the right direction.
This is all good news: competition benefits the consumers - us!
Cheers,
Luiz
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#15712 02/16/03 02:09 AM 02/16/03 02:09 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 51 australia taipan029
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Posts: 51 australia | the f-33 looks like a great boat (i saw it yesterday for the firs time i realy like those beams) light and power full, but there was not much difference in speed/performace wen i was along side it with my f-28R the winds were about 15-20knotes some gusts too 25 i got up 18knots on the screacher run i would love too see the boat with spinaker going i think it could all so do with a bigger mast but i still looks like a great exiting boat regards kurt f-28R aus 006 taipan 4.9 aus 029 | | | Re: F33 has been launched
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#15713 02/18/03 07:29 AM 02/18/03 07:29 AM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | The 33 is obviously intended to be a fast cruiser, so it is not necessarily expected to outperform your F28R. If you are looking for performance, the Catri (my boat) should interest you. Cheers
Luiz
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#15714 02/25/03 01:14 AM 02/25/03 01:14 AM |
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Posts: 40 NZ | Kurt
Do you think the taller 'R' mast would improve things (assuming the first boat doesn't have it)?
Simon Manning
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#15715 02/25/03 03:29 AM 02/25/03 03:29 AM |
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Posts: 51 australia | im shure that it would ,and i think the st(supa tri) vesion wich has a taller rig and is much lighter would make it alot faster www.f-boat.com regards kurt f-28R aus 006 taipan 4.9 aus 029 | | | Re: F33 has been launched
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#15716 02/26/03 12:57 AM 02/26/03 12:57 AM |
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Posts: 40 NZ | That's what I figured. Well regardless it looks great and it's a shame that our kiwi 'pesos' will mean the boat isn't likely to be a goer for import nor the demand here to justify a local build - I'm hanging out for the unpainted maximum-DIY hulls-and-beams pricing!
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Simon Manning
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#15718 09/24/03 02:37 PM 09/24/03 02:37 PM |
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Posts: 1,307 Asuncion, Paraguay | Sigi,
This was the first question the oldest and most experienced multihull sailor in Brazil asked when I first showed him my dream boat. All fins are potential kelp-catchers and more fins = more kelp to get read of...
To date, none of the Catri owners I am in touch with complained about kelp or debris catched by the ama's foils. I guess the problem is minimized because the foils are swept-back and/or because the ama's foils are designed to go in and out of the water in higher speeds.
Anyway, I think the cross of the rudder blade with its foils is a stronger candidate to catch kelp - but the rudder is also easier to clean.
There is another risk as well - solid debris in high speed. I was informed that the guys in San Francisco exceeded 30 knots, so I started worrying and asked the builder in Brazil his opinion.
He told me not to worry at all and that a worker once fell very heavily over one ama transom, the foil geting all the load. The worker broke his leg, but both the foil and the foil/ama seam remained unscratched.
Cheers, Luiz
Luiz
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