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[Re: ERoberts]
#162715 12/15/08 09:45 PM 12/15/08 09:45 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,911 South Florida & the Keys arbo06
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Posts: 1,911 South Florida & the Keys | Fantastic event! Pretty cool to watch it up close and personal from the SEARAY. We saw alot of determination and guts and hope to have documented the experiences for all of you. Next year I hope to join all of you at the start line with new sail and new paint. It was a pleasure chasing you guys and gals.
Eric Arbogast
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Eric Arbogast ARC 2101 Miami Yacht Club | | | Re: Updates?
[Re: arbo06]
#162720 12/15/08 10:15 PM 12/15/08 10:15 PM |
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. Team_Cat_Fever
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Hey Eric A., NO GUMBO RECIPE!!!
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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[Re: Jake]
#162723 12/16/08 06:45 AM 12/16/08 06:45 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Well, I was thinking of REPLACING the champagne with some keepsake of the race that is a little more durable and meaningful than a champagne bottle. I don't want to increase the entry fee, so it would have to be the same cost as the champagne. And, just as with the champagne, it would go only to people who actually COMPLETE the race. Flags are a possibility (if I can ever get my sewing machine working). Or I can do something with wood. My preference would be to replace the champagne with paddles for the finishers, since paddling is kind of a special aspect of this race. (I would woodburn the year and name of the race on the paddles.) Rick is totally opposed to eliminating the champagne, because that is a tradition that started with the first race in 1985, when there was no entry fee and no trophies -- just a bottle of champagne for each finisher. Personally, I am sick of drinking all that leftover champagne that nobody claimed.  So I am in favor of creating a new tradition. As far as I am concerned, this is something that should be decided by the sailors who actually do this race. And if somebody wants to have T-shirts made and sell them to the people who participate in the race, that's fine, too. But it should not be something that they get with their registration fee and not something that Rick and I are involved with. Jack Hildreth used to get shirts made and sell them for the Steeplechase, but he stopped doing it. So if somebody wants to do it...... Chime in on what you would like to happen. | | | Re: Updates?
[Re: Jake]
#162731 12/16/08 09:09 AM 12/16/08 09:09 AM |
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... RickWhite OP 
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Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... | Jake, as you know we award flags at the Tradewinds, which I think are great. With flags, you can display your trophies on your boat on the beach before the race. Mary and I have 8 strings of flags we have won, including some her father won, that we fly for every Bay Week.
The caveat is they are very expensive.., about $25 per flag. Rick | | | Re: Updates?
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#162735 12/16/08 09:55 AM 12/16/08 09:55 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Jake, as you know we award flags at the Tradewinds, which I think are great. With flags, you can display your trophies on your boat on the beach before the race. Mary and I have 8 strings of flags we have won, including some her father won, that we fly for every Bay Week.
The caveat is they are very expensive.., about $25 per flag. Rick Yikes...that is expensive!
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#162773 12/16/08 03:48 PM 12/16/08 03:48 PM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Yes, the Champaigne is a tradition. And it helps get the corrosion off the chainplates.  I'd say one bottle per finishing boat, though. I really like Mary's paddle idea for each class winner. Having used them frequently (and lost a few), they'd be a very innovative award. Instead of full flags, what about those slender pennants (about 3" tall by 24" long)? screenprinted with the year.. Blue, Red and Green? You could fit more of them on your halyard... And is there any reason the party has to be on Sunday after the race? The awards, yes, but sloppy joes and beer sound like just the thing on Saturday night, when everyone's done and looking for something to do. But maybe Steve is still having his party then? Man, so many things have been suggested so far: - reverse the course - change the awards - change the award ceremony - change the starts - change the setup/launch site... seems like there's just too much to choose from, and it's not like the race is broken to start with! come to think of it, is there any reason the awards have to be the same year to year? Other than "ye olde chair" perpetual, maybe a paddle one year, brag flag the next, something the third year.... That way people might keep trying for the "new and exciting trophy"?
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[Re: Mary]
#162785 12/16/08 04:48 PM 12/16/08 04:48 PM |
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl ksurfer2
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | Personally, I would like to have something I can show off after the race. That being said....I understand the importance of tradition. The event this year was outstanding. There were a lot of suggestions thrown around to make it better, but I don't think Rick and Mary could have done anything that would have made this year any better than it was. Many thanks to both!!!!!!!
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[Re: Mary]
#162788 12/16/08 05:00 PM 12/16/08 05:00 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Something more tangible. I like the flag idea, but I'm a flag person.
I always liked the food on Sunday.
Dave
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#162794 12/16/08 06:05 PM 12/16/08 06:05 PM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA dave mosley
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | Flags are expensive, but classy. I did some for a Laser event and they were around $33 each, and I had some free Vectoring done(aint that right Jake?) The Flags(pennants, 1 color,12x18) themselves are around $5 if you find them at the right spot, but anything you add(mongramming) is the kicker. Someone needs to buy a c&c monogrammer and get busy for us, for cheap!
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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#162796 12/16/08 06:20 PM 12/16/08 06:20 PM |
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. Team_Cat_Fever
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | "Man, so many things have been suggested so far: - reverse the course Don't- change the awards Maybe flags.- change the award ceremony Don't- change the starts Don't- change the setup/launch site... " Don'tWaterbug did you race? Nothing's broke don't "fix" any of that stuff. It is one of ,if not the best race going, don't screw with it. Flags would be cool though. I still have bottles of Andre from 10 years ago ,so maybe they are tangible. I agree with Ksurfer it was EXXXCCCCEEELLLLLEENNNTTTTT! Finishing around a mark that doesn't exist is a novel concept, I applaud Rick for thinking outside of the box.  Todd
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