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Posts: 170 Brisvegas | The A Class Worlds start on 2 January 2009 at Belmont 16ft Skiff Club Lake Macquarie NSW Australia. The preliminary regatta of the Australian Titles starts on 28 December 2008. So far 94 entires have been received from 13 countries. The usual A Class luminaries will be there as well as a few Olympic class jumpers and an AC skipper. Surprisingly no Seppos (A term of endearment) have nominated for the event. It's a shame after the strong numbers at the last Worlds in Florida and the emergence of US sailors as a force in A sailing. Maybe the GFC is biting harder than we think! The event website is here http://www.a-catworlds2009.org.au/I'll try and make some posts during the event as I'll be sailing myself. Cheers John Dowling AUS9 | | | Re: A Class Worlds start soon
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#163800 12/31/08 10:16 PM 12/31/08 10:16 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Thanks for the posts, John - sounds like the regatta is shaping up nicely despite the summer storms.
John Williams
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#163881 01/02/09 11:58 PM 01/02/09 11:58 PM |
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Posts: 1,037 Central California | There are several interesting story lines, and I'm certainly interested in how things play out: *No US sailors despite significant talent including former world champions *Several elite sailors from the non-catamaran ranks *Parallel vs canted vs banana boards *Glued vs non-glued *More hull designs than ever: flyer II, A3, the tool, boyer, bimare V1, balance, nikita, marstrom, scheurer; yet unclear if any recent US designs will be present (like the Evo or LR2); BUT, anything new like wide/planing sterns, chines or trip turbulators? *Sail shape innovations--wider tops still, new batten configurations, any boomless? *Rig innovations--whippier or stiffer, tapered or same ol' stuff? *New techniques--Is there a new breakthrough like "wild thing"? *New talent--is there a new "Ashby"; will the non-cat sailors threaten?
Eric Poulsen A-class USA 203 Ultimate 20 Central California
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#163883 01/03/09 04:20 AM 01/03/09 04:20 AM |
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Posts: 2,584 +31NL | *yet unclear if any recent US designs will be present (like the Evo or LR2);
Piet Saarberg will be sailing with the EVO A-Cat design. | | | Re: A Class Worlds start soon
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#163891 01/03/09 09:42 AM 01/03/09 09:42 AM |
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Posts: 1,226 Atlanta | There's two story lines here, one about the competition. - Can anybody beat Ashby - probably not, Guck's not going, so he'll sweep. Spithill's more of a multi guy now, F18, Dogzilla and Acats all under this belt. It will be interesting to see how the two Aussie Olympic guys do, non-Acat guys, one Laser sailor and one 49er sailor. Two new non Acat sailors isnt really all that ground breaking, unless of course if they win. Its good to see that the Acat class is attracting new blood. Its more disappointing rather than interesting that the US didnt show up. Winning without beating Guck, Melvin, Kinder, Hall, is a rather hollow victory. If you add up all the world and national titles that the US has in Acat sailing, you'd have a nice long list and lots of those guys are still racing. So in my opinion, this world championship will always have that as an asterick.
The other story is the curved boards. - Do the curved boards really give that much of an advantage? - The answer is probably yes, in the right downwind wind range and how do you take adavantage of that?
The rest of your list really isnt that interesting (sorry) And why is glued vs no glued interesting? Are you waiting for the glue to fail?
Shapes, The more radical hull shapes, the LR2 and to a less extent the the Dk17 wont be there. I dont see anything that radical from the tool, balance, nikita or schuerer, they all look pretty similar, more of a refinement that than dramatic new ideas.
Boomless? Doubtful.
Rigs are getting stiffer with the squaretops, nothing new there. I doubt you'll see a whippy mast. The last big innovation came from Ben Hall with his wing mast and thats not going (disappointing). He also tried a super light weight mast in Florida last year, but he broke it. I doubt you'll see that again.
Any new techniques? The only new technique that would be interesting or innovative is if the curved boards allow you to plane downwind and go mild instead of wild.
Bill
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Posts: 1,203 uk | "Its more disappointing rather than interesting that the US didnt show up. Winning without beating Guck, Melvin, Kinder, Hall, is a rather hollow victory. If you add up all the world and national titles that the US has in Acat sailing, you'd have a nice long list and lots of those guys are still racing. So in my opinion, this world championship will always have that as an asterick. "
Rubish
You need to get yourself a blazer and get on some ISAF committees, then you can start administering the 'world championship' franchise and take it off classes that you don't think are worthy.
There are always guys that don't show up to any race, no-one has the right to assume that they are better than anyone else without competing.
You gotta be in it to win it.
You should appologise to all the a-class sailors for demeaning their championships!
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#163939 01/04/09 05:41 AM 01/04/09 05:41 AM |
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Posts: 1,449 | Anyone interestd in checking out the wind for that area over the next few days just click the link- seabreeze.com.au
I know that the voices in my head aint real, but they have some pretty good ideas. There is no such thing as a quick fix and I've never had free lunch!
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | So if Larry and Dogzilla arent allowed to compete in the AC, is it a real championship? I see both of you guys points, but I have to say if Nigel didnt show up to our EMSA series, and I won it, would I really be the best sailor around our area? If Ashby didnt show for this one, I bet you would feel the same way about whoever won, and we all would.
But, you have to race to win, Damn, who's side am I on?
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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#164003 01/04/09 09:33 PM 01/04/09 09:33 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I see both of you guys points, but I have to say if Nigel didnt show up to our EMSA series, and I won it, would I really be the best sailor around our area?
Maybe, maybe not...but you would have won the event. Winning any worlds is a huge accomplishment...and I don't care who you are who is not.
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Unregistered | Enough chat... It looked as though Australia’s 2002 World Champion Steve Brewin had won race one of the 2009 A-Cat World Championships at Belmont today. However Brewin was OCS by three seconds.
The race was closely contested in a five to seven knot nor’easter. Brewin was first around the top mark, with Ashby back in tenth place.
But it was Spain’s Manuel Calavia who claimed first place. Glenn Ashby, Matthias Dietz (GER), Dave Brewer and James Spithill were among the top finishers at the second top mark.
Calavia was the first ranked European behind Glenn Ashby and Scott Anderson in the 2007 European Championships and was placed second behind Steve Brewin in the 2008 Europeans.
'I was the third boat up from the pin. I went left, found clean air and was good after that,' Calavia said.
Ashby, who came second, described his approach to the challenging conditions. 'The secret was to go hard left until your nose bled or you almost bricked, and then come away,' he said.
The light conditions were difficult; the 94 boat fleet had trouble coming in on port tack, but found it easier on starboard tack.
Spithill, who was fourth across the line and third in the race after the OCS of Brewin, explained he was pleased with his recovery.
'I was deep in the 40’s on the first beat but I kept chipping away and got a couple of good shifts and worked my way back up into the fleet,' he said.
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