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#166267 01/27/09 06:50 AM 01/27/09 06:50 AM |
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Posts: 1,203 uk | I know the 'larks head' as a cow hitch. not much use on a boat unless its used in a loop thats already on the line. they tend to slip. lots of people use it to tie spinny sheets to the sail.
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#166334 01/27/09 01:40 PM 01/27/09 01:40 PM |
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | Assuming the stopper knot is also called the figure 8, right?
For me, its usually the figure 8, the bowline, and rarely the square knot.
Thanks for the links!
I'm assuming you are putting the figure 8 in the end of the bungi cord, and the catching or holding it with the larks head, right?
My trap bungi, ends out thru a plastic hook, with a figure 8 thru the hole. The hook, hooks to the end of the trap line that has a bowline in it.
Lot's of variations.
I like the plastic hooks, 'cause when needed, they un hook easily from the bungee, and re-attach easily too.
ON my former N6.0 (the avatar), I had run three bungees, and it was easy to put the trap line where it worked best for distance races, etc. (one bungee on each side of the shroud, and one trhu the rear beam- usually used for reaching, and with the kite)
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#166337 01/27/09 01:53 PM 01/27/09 01:53 PM |
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#166396 01/27/09 05:59 PM 01/27/09 05:59 PM | andrewscott
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Unregistered | ON my former N6.0 (the avatar), I had run three bungees, and it was easy to put the trap line where it worked best for distance races, etc. (one bungee on each side of the shroud, and one trhu the rear beam- usually used for reaching, and with the kite) I like that idea, i may have to try that | | | Re: knots
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#166976 02/01/09 03:24 PM 02/01/09 03:24 PM |
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Posts: 5,525 | "There have probably been more lives lost as a result of using a square knot as a bend (to tie two ropes together) than from the failure of any other half dozen knots combined."
Later on the sheetbend is recommended. It seems much less secure than the square knot. Did I miss something?
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#166982 02/01/09 05:30 PM 02/01/09 05:30 PM |
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Posts: 263 SC | Pete, if I recall correctly the sheetbend is mostly reccomened to tie two lines of different diameters together.
I find a double figure 8 works well and is very secure. Tie a loose figure 8 in the end of line A. Now trace the pattern back with the end of line B.
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#166983 02/01/09 05:33 PM 02/01/09 05:33 PM |
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | I was taught, first when I was in the Southern Arizona Resuce Association (SARA), that you only used a square knot when the two lines were exactly the same diameter. And never as part of any lifeline.
So yes, We agree!!
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#167023 02/02/09 09:45 AM 02/02/09 09:45 AM |
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Posts: 5,525 | "Overboard: The Rolling Hitch has been promoted as the only knot to tie in the following unlikely but critical circumstance: while sailing alone you fall overboard and catch hold of the line which you have prudently left trailing astern and find yourself hanging on with difficulty. Before you tire, you manage to bring the bitter end of the rope around your back. You then have to tie a suitable knot to make a loop around you. A bowline cannot be tied under load. Two half hitches will slide and constrict you. The Rolling Hitch is the answer. Even as the second turn is tucked "up" into the correct place, the major strain is taken and the final half hitch can be tied with less urgency. " Perhaps this should be renamed the "self-trolling" knot. 
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