anyone know more about this

Since the recent introduction of a new style righting system the FX1 can now be righted by a helm as light as 76 kg/12 stone.

http://www.hobiecatcentre.co.uk/Range/RangeFx1.htm

If I had to guess, I would say it's a righting pole.

You prob have found this already:
Page 28 of FX parts manual

And it looks like this:
Rick's righting system

As far as knowing more about it, that is the question. The principle is pretty well shown with Rick's setup. And it looks so much cleaner than a righting bag or whatever. Installation always seems to be the pickle with a lot of this kind of gear.

My 1980 A-cat had a righting pole installed. only taken Hobie 30 years to catch on? hardly new technology aye.

thanks for that

interesting that both hobie europe and nacra europe offer factory righting pole systems but not seemingly the usa factories

guess it's a litigation thing or our "merican" cousins are heavy enough not to need girlie-men things like righting poles, at least arnie doesn't look like he'd need 1 to right a hummer that's been knocked on it's side

30 years onwards and "BIG factory" newly designed singlehanders still need righting poles ?

That is hardly progress, is it ?

Go A-cat, Go F16 !

Wouter

"Go A-cats"? Wouter, check first with Dazz on the righting poles for A-cats.

Dazz, could be that the FX is the first boat that Hobie designed that might have truly needed a righting pole...while we snark away.

Arnie was an Austrian first, IIRC, Erice. Plus it wasn't real, it was mooovies.

As a someone with some engineering experience, Wouter, you should at least respect a well-thought-out, well-made, fast solution to a problem that turns a mountain of a difficulty into a no-worries molehill.

These righting systems sure beat drifting along on top of your F16, complaining about how you used to be able to right it.

And I call bogus, if this leads you into one of those old, tired discussions about your weight versus your boat...

IMHO, the actual best question here is: No matter the boat, are these righting pole systems simple enough to install and use to justify them?

Gee, you are truly a Hobie sailor aren't you ?

As someone with engineering experience I know that it generally believed to be wise to avoid such mistakes in the design phase rather then aftermarket "a 10 kg solution 8 years later". So much for "well made" and "fast" I say.

Incidently, I have yet to fail righting my F16. When it finally does happen when I'm 70 years old and shrunk I'll send Hobie a formal appology and praise their foresightedness of making "righting cranks" mandatory even for tall and fit 35 year olds.

At the same time I'll send those Viagra spammers an appology as well.

Till that time, I'll just do it the obvious way.

Selecting a model that allows me to get it up without significant effort !

Oh Yeah !

Wouter

Ok Guys,

Now I do not now exactly WHO came up w/ the "righting pole" .... but the first place I saw them used was on the H21SE's in the "Pro Sailor Circut" in the late 80's. A used H16 boom was used in the basic configuration as "Rick's". It started first w/ light wieght teams, but quickly even heavy wieght teams were using a righting pole also, as you could right the boat so much quicker ....

Harry

I've often wondered, how does the righting pole work when the boat is turtled? The pole doesn't give you any leverage when it's pointing straight up in the air. Do you need a separate righting line for turtled, or do you have to get the pole out quickly and just never let the boat go turtle in the first place?

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I wouldn't use a pole just because a bag is so easy to use. If its over 15 I don't need the bag anyway and I'm 160lbs.

Wouter- JJ just got his FXone, let him be enthusiastic for a while.

The righting pole doesn't take much effort to install and is so quick you shouldn't turtle as you just climb on the hull slip the knot into place as you pull the pole in position then hang on. You can also use your leverege level with the main beam instead of the boards keeping the cat head to wind a bit better.
regards

I just installed one on my Nacra 5.2.
I recycled a broken carbon windsurfer mast and mast base (after cutting off the useless bits). I made a custom bracket by picking up a free strip of aluminum from a scrap metal dealer, sticking it in my vice and banging away until it fit my front beam. A couple of pop-rivets later it was on. Ok, so it cost me two hours to set it up completely, but it weights barely 3kg total.
Dennis

Okay, I didn't know that.

Sorry JJ, I wish you the best of enjoyment sailing your new toy !

Best of winds !

Wouter

dennis any chance of some photos?

i'm still mulling if i want a pole that clips on to the beam,hull join or 1 that is permanently connected to the dolphin striker

ow did you handle the support lines, end pole going fore and aft, mid-pole same?

I'll try to remember to take a camera next time I go out to the boat!

The support lines are copied from Rick's system. Except for the bungee. In my set-up that is a thin line to prevent the pole from swinging too far forward and breaking against the dolphin striker. The bungee attaches to the center of that line, through a pulley at the front beam and back to the rear tramp lacing. It will pull up the pole all the way to the tramp by itself even though it is now working against a 1:2 purchase.

Never mind though, I'll get some pictures... This all sounds more complicated than it is.

lol!

But, hey, it's not that you have yet to fail righting your F16, it's that 20 to 30 minutes of fighting to get it back up, eh? Quicker with a righting pole?

I repeat though: No matter the boat, these righting pole systems, are they simple enough to install and simple enough to use to justify them?

I say this because I am getting somewhat irked by the probs that arise after these "new, labor-saving" devices get installed. I got no gripes with the righting pole setup I got at this point.

However, I was looking at my trailer couple days ago and noticed that the galvanized uprights holding the rollers had a sneaky raised extension that could rip a nice hole in the hull if the boat got pulled off the trailer at the wrong angle.

I am thinking, what genius designed this setup? And off came the roller assemblies and now I have to hunt/beg/whine/search for a setup to attach my new used cradles that I had to hunt/beg/whine/search for... @#%$^^*.

And like a good ol Southern Redneck, I am going to do my version of "going green" when I am done. Going to go out the backdoor and throw all four of the roller assemblies down into the deep, green WOODS!

Hey, whatever allows you to sleep at night !

Wouter