Florida didn't know about it.. but GA wouldn't accept nor title it without a out of state title... but it has none..

PS 328.03 Certificate of title required.--
3) A person shall not sell, assign, or transfer a vessel titled by the state without delivering to the purchaser or transferee a valid certificate of title with an assignment on it showing the transfer of title to the purchaser or transferee. A person shall not purchase or otherwise acquire a vessel required to be titled by the state without obtaining a certificate of title for the vessel in his or her name.

So unless ALL of the states get their act together someone will get scr$wed. Don't you love politics? Oh, wait, wrong thread!

C

David,

Thanks for your hard work and investigation into this. I am working on collecting what documentation I can on the history of my H16 to take to the title office.

I am not yet associated with any organized multihull group but I'm sure some of you are. Are those organizations able to do anything to help? HAs anyone contacted or heard from their legislators?

Antony Dalton

I don't think I'll take that road trip outta state... I hate hassles....

Talked to Jill today. She called Tallahassee and found there is no need to register cats. As was said before some boats were given MSO's, boats that were financed received titles. The problem is with trying to get a title for a boat that hasn't had one. You will need to prove ownership and get a court order to obtain a title.

Any size cat (non-motorized of course)?

I'm going to be a bit leary of that until it's in writing somewhere.

Thanks Jenn. That will be two of us.
"(9) An undocumented vessel used exclusively for racing", the word "undocumented" is a little worrisome. But, I'll take my chances.

I spoke with her too... she sent me a copy of the email that said NO REG needed... This is for boats under 16'.

We still need a reg and title... unless your under 16' and all cats need title

I am not trying to drag this out... but...

Parkers Link
(2) Each vessel operated, used, or stored on the waters of this state must be registered as a commercial vessel or recreational vessel as defined in s. 327.02, unless it is:

(a) A vessel operated, used, and stored exclusively on private lakes and ponds;

(b) A vessel owned by the United States Government;

(c) A vessel used exclusively as a ship's lifeboat; or

(d) A non-motor-powered vessel less than 16 feet in length or a non-motor-powered canoe, kayak, racing shell, or rowing scull, regardless of length.

Who's Jill?

I don't actually "own" my boat ... I lease it from the US Gov't in the form of taxes paid

Robi, can you make up some decals that say " Property of the U.S. Government" ?

I work for the US Coast Guard. My paycheck is issued by the Department of Homeland Security, so in essence my boat is owned by the US Government.

lawls on the decal request Terry.

Manager of the RED GEAR RACING (Robbie Danniels Wife).

They sell cats and she emailed someone in the tax collectors office...

Here is the email:
From: "TaxCollector Internet E-Mail" <[email protected]>
> To: "Jill A Nickerson" <[email protected]>
> Cc: "Stephanie Lillico" <[email protected]>
> Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2009 14:55:59 -0400
> Subject: RE: BOAT TITLES
> Message-ID:
> <[email protected]>
>
> Thank you for your recent e-mail. Non motor powered vessels less than
> 16 feet in length are not required to be titled or registered.
> Sailboats 16 feet or more in length are titled but only registered if
> motor powered. Age of the vessel has no bearing on title requirements
> or exemptions.
>
> Please do not hesitate to contact us if you have further questions via
> e-mail or by calling our customer service center (727) 464-7777.
>
> Thank You,
> Lisa Carpenter, Lead Tax Specialist
> Diane Nelson, Tax Collector
> e-Service Center
> 727.453.3775 office
> 727.453.3778 fax
> "Committed to Citizen-Centered Government"
>

Robi, any info on laws/rules changes? there seems to be a bit of a difference in the data the tax collector provided Jill and what everyone else is saying (the state website).

We're going to need a bit more than just Jill's word. I called Tallahassee, too. I was referred to the NEW laws which are found in Florida Statute 328.

FL Statute 328

The new language is in section 328.48(2d) on registration which now includes the 16 foot rule reads

2) Each vessel operated, used, or stored on the waters of this state must be registered as a commercial vessel or recreational vessel as defined in s. 327.02, unless it is:

(a) A vessel operated, used, and stored exclusively on private lakes and ponds;

(b) A vessel owned by the United States Government;

(c) A vessel used exclusively as a ship's lifeboat; or

(d) A non-motor-powered vessel less than 16 feet in length or a non-motor-powered canoe, kayak, racing shell, or rowing scull, regardless of length.

If you can find something here that exempts catamarans, please point it out. The officer will want to know....

The Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission is the law enforcement branch controls these regulations and the sticky rules concerning hull numbers, titling, and registration.

Try calling Captain Roger Young in the Tampa office of FWC at 813-376-6418. I hope I don't make him mad for publishing his number but if a bunch of us call, perhaps he can get things done.


Try this link to the FWC on boating regulations

Hit "Org Structure" on the left and then find your local rep in the right hand column. Call and whine.

Sorry duder, nav rules and regulations, laws etc is not the department I work for.

If its electronic and flies I can tell you a we-bit.

Well I think he needs to talk to Lisa Carpenter to get it straight.

I just measured my (unregistered and untitled) Blade, turns out it's only 15'11". Honest Officer!

But I think I need a new DPN.

;^)

Yep....I measured mine last night ... 15'11" (of course without the spin pole--which I, of course, RARELY use officer).

I've changed my hull stickers to reflect this measurement oversight by the manufacturer:

Blade F15