| Trailering your boat #21256 06/22/03 08:14 AM 06/22/03 08:14 AM |
Joined: Nov 2002 Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... Mary OP
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | The other day we were driving on a freeway (well, tollway) in Miami and we were behind somebody towing a catamaran sailboat. Couldn't tell exactly what it was, because it had a full cover over it. Maybe a Hobie 20. Very nice. Obviously the owner cares about protecting his boat. HOWEVER, one small problem. He had left his rudders on, which is not normally a problem, but he had taken off the tiller crossbar between the rudders, so the rudders and rudder arms were just swinging freely around in the breeze. We followed him through a toll booth that had concrete along the left side as you entered, and we watched as his port rudder scraped along the concrete. And then when he got to the actual toll booth and paid the lady, she noticed the rudder sticking out, so she flicked it over with her hand as it went by. I said, "Oh, no!" because this now put the tiller arm out to port, and the end of the tiller then caught briefly on the exit portal from the booth. We were anticipating certain disaster for the guy's rudder system. But somehow he lucked through it all. Rick said, "Now there's a guy who, when he sells his boat, will advertise it as "never raced."  Anyway, we have had numerous incidents and accidents ourselves involving trailering our sailboats, including tilt trailers flying a "hull", trailer tongues breaking and the boat passing the car, flat tires that we don't notice until we see smoke coming from behind our vehicle, daggerboards falling out of our boat box on the road....and a friend lost a jib that fell out the back of his boat box. We have spent more time than we had planned in parts of the country where we didn't want to be, as a result of trailer wheel hubs freezing up because we did not keep them greased. Highway trailering is a way of life for beach-cat sailors, and probably people have more accidents and more problems related to trailering than to sailing. So please share YOUR bad trailering experiences -- maybe we can help others avoid them. | | | Re: Trailering your boat
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#21257 06/22/03 09:04 AM 06/22/03 09:04 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | This is more of a near miss but I had helped my, now wife, move into my house and being short on tie downs, I borrowed the ones from my boat to secure her things on the trailer for the move. You can probably see this one coming by now; I went sailing the next weekend to my normal spot that is about 30 miles away down a rather seriously bumpy peice of freeway that was under construction. We stopped once we were almost there to pick up some snacks. Checking the boat like I do at every stop, I almost died when I realized I had forgoten to put the straps back on (they were in the back of the truck) and it was within a couple of inches of teetering off the last cradle. While it had made it without a scratch, I could put about 10lbs on the back and it would tilt down off the trailer!!
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#21258 06/22/03 09:34 AM 06/22/03 09:34 AM |
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 290 Pensacola, Florida / Katy, Tex... Cookie Monster
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Posts: 290 Pensacola, Florida / Katy, Tex... | Make sure that you tie your mast down, and do it well.
My first cat was a Hobie 16. I pulled it with my new Ford Econoline van. While heading to the beach one beautiful Saturday morning to sail, the mast bounced out of the cradle on the high end over the van, and was hanging down from the support by the loose ties. It worked its way down behind the van so that it fit perfectly. Well, everything was fine as long as I was going straight, but when I eventually made a hard right hand turn --- crunch! The base of the mast was pushed through the back door/window.
That won't happen again!
Don
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#21260 06/22/03 01:08 PM 06/22/03 01:08 PM |
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 396 Annapolis Md. LuckyDuck
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Posts: 396 Annapolis Md. | ElGreengo - Most excelent!!! 1.5" Aluminum pipe? Does anyone see a downside to this setup? I sure don't.
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#21262 06/22/03 02:00 PM 06/22/03 02:00 PM |
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#21263 06/22/03 02:03 PM 06/22/03 02:03 PM |
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#21264 06/22/03 10:41 PM 06/22/03 10:41 PM |
Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... catman
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Posts: 1,658 Florida Suncoast, Dunedin Caus... | Just to underscore the importance of properly tying stuff down. About 15 years ago someone leaving the causeway didn't tie their mast well enough. As you leave the causeway there is a bump as you drive onto the draw bridge. It was just enough to pop the front of the mast out of the front support. The mast fell to the left into the oncoming lane. As fate would have it the moment it fell a car was passing in the other direction. The mast was driven through the windshield of the passing car hitting the driver in the head and killing him.
Always take that last walk around and make sure you secured everything. Don't rely on someone whose helping you to do it right.
Mike
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#21270 06/23/03 09:43 AM 06/23/03 09:43 AM |
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 164 The Netherlands (North West Eu... RobLammerts
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Posts: 164 The Netherlands (North West Eu... | Last winter a collegue of me offered to bring my cat to our company wharehouse for winter storage, and crached one hull into his car. This spring a nice gentleman offered to help me park the trailer, and made a turn direct after disconnecting from the car, I ended up with a big dent in my 12 weeks old car  . The only plomblem I ever had while trailering was loosing a paddle on the highway (forgot to take it of the tram) no one got harmed  .
Rob
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#21272 06/23/03 10:30 AM 06/23/03 10:30 AM |
Joined: Oct 2001 Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland Dermot
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Posts: 915 Dublin, Ireland | I remember someone collecting his new cat, taking the wrong turn, doing a U turn and catching his mast on a telagraph pole, snapping it (the mast not the pole - naturally.)
Something that hasn't been mentioned is, if the mast sits on the aft beam, not on a support, it needs to be very carefully padded between the beam and the mast. Because of the movement of the forward support and the flexability of the trailer, especially on bumpy roads, quite thick padding (carpet)can wear away very quickly, damaging both mast and beam.
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#21273 06/23/03 11:13 AM 06/23/03 11:13 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 74 Maryland, USA PRagen
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Posts: 74 Maryland, USA | Trailering experiences...
Story 1: I was on the Ohio turnpike, far from home, many years ago with my old Hobie 16, when I look in my rear view mirror and see one side of the cat much lower then normal. The trailer was made of galvanized U shaped steel( "[" shaped since on its side) and just behind the wheel on one side the top and middle of the [ section had ripped apart. The bottom of the [ was still attached and the sailbox (plywood) was holding it up some in the back middle so it did not drag. I had a wheel jack for the front that I was able to clamp on with its U bolts across the crack. It held for the remainder of the trip.
Story 2: Trailer had been sitting unmoved for a couple years (boat on beach) and I repacked bearings one side but could not get the other side out. A bad sign. I greased as best I could but 15 minutes into a 12 hour drive, on a Sunday, towards home, heard a horable screeching sound. Was very lucky to find and old style service station with a service bay that could work on it. The owner was only one on duty and did not want do it, but listened to my plea that I had to get home and was 12 hours from home. Also luckily the one boat parts store in town was open on a Sunday. I now have "Bearing Buddies" and grease gun. Highly recommended.
Patrick Ragen Taipan 4.9 USA 274
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#21274 06/23/03 01:55 PM 06/23/03 01:55 PM |
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Posts: 45 | Someone I know is too cheap/lazy to get a sailbox or van. This person says that it's feasible to tie the boom and sailbag to the tramp and everything will be all right. What does everyo9ne think of this?
David Ho TheMightyHobie18 1067 I wouldn't call not buying a van cheap or lazy. I wouldn't bust out tens of thousands of dollars to buy a vehicle that's butt-ugly to tow my $1,000 boat. Wouldn't say not having a catbox is lazy, maybe cheap. Guess I fall into that camp. But prior to purchasing a larger vehicle, when I towed my H16 with my Firebird, I lashed my rudders, sailbag and boom to the tramp of my H16. As well as a couple of beach chairs. Go figure, never had a problem. Never lost a piece and never damaged my boat. Just use a little common sense while tying down. John | | |
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