In a quick trawl through the most recent active threads which again have been quite " vocal " and seemingly everyone getting further entrenched in their opinions, I thought I would have alook and see actually how many active F16 sailors are participating in the threads.

Sorts of sums it all up really 13 owners of F16s versus 24 non owners. It would be interesting to do a proper stats and also put in the locallity as well.

1. F16 owner, sailor (as often as possilbe, still nursing cut on leg from last weekend's KPRR regatta! Matt/Gina, any pictures up yet?)

Location; Central Florida, USA.

Oh, and I'm taking the kids out later today, using all 3 boats (4 kids); Hobie 14, Blade (2 up) and Prindle 2 up.

2. F16 owner, back in the saddle as class volunteer/promotor after 2 years absence. Have written EU F16 owners to get them all together this season with possibly a clinic and some promotion activities. I'm coordinating this with the other promotors like Gill, Darren/Carolijn and soon also Hans.

Location : Heemstede, The Netherlands, Europe

Boat Location : Zandvoort, The Netherlands but currently away for some small repairs (I dropped my mast and broke the mast base plate).

Wouter

This has been done before

Not quite what I was getting at. There are more people active on this thread ( nearly 2:1 ) that have no real knowledge of F16's, than current owners, I thought this was the F16 Forum for F16 sailors.

Perhaps Pete may have a point, it maybe nearing the time to use the official class site more for discussion on the workings and design of the boats than this site which seems to constantly become side tracked with old well discussed issues.

+1

You guys can be like the short bussed kids. The wanna be cool at all cost kids at school. You know the one that was constantly picked on and cried in the corner to the teacher.

Get over selves. The F16 is not a freaking God gift to the sailing world. Just sail the boat and quit arguing with other classes or even feeding the trolls.

Sailing is sailing. F16, F18 blah blah F20 its the same sh1t different name. The only difference is the f16 has the choice of sailing one up or two up with the same number and its weight.

You guys really do more damage with these threads than the technical discussions about sailing that usually goes on around this forum.

Its too bad and looks terrible for the class.

Bit of PMT this morning Robi, your outburst and your little diatribe is exactly my point, as much as we want meaningful discussion it always comes back to the same thread hijack by those not really wanting to be part of the club.

Wayne dont talk out of your butt. I was part of this club. I actually set up the very first class website along with Wouter. I purchased the first production built F16 in the US. Its a class I hold dearly and closely. I have good friends that we have had plenty of drunken stupor nights together. Its the same idiots that keep bringing the class down and its all done on the retardnets.

Just sail more often and all the dust will settle.

Robi, I do know who you are and I do know of your origins in the F16 club. But you came in all " hammer and tongs and butch like " and deserved the PMT comment.

Can I ask a question, how did you mis-interpret from my comments " as much as we want meaningful discussion it always comes back to the same thread hijack by those not really wanting to be part of the cool club." that it was specifically aimed at you. Just curious

I guess we are all a little bit on edge here lately.

Wouter