| Happy Independence Day! #215242 07/04/10 09:57 AM 07/04/10 09:57 AM |
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | Let us all be happy for what we have here in the USA.
Let us all stay focused on the concept of our great country which includes, but is not only limited to such concepts as hard work, individual freedom, and the smallest government possible.
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#215243 07/04/10 10:13 AM 07/04/10 10:13 AM |
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Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine | <********, Samuel Adams, John Adams, Robert Treat Paine, Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island: Stephen Hopkins, William Ellery
Connecticut: Roger Sherman, Samuel Huntington, William Williams, Oliver Wolcott
New York: William Floyd, Philip Livingston, Francis Lewis, Lewis Morris
New Jersey: Richard Stockton, John Witherspoon, Francis Hopkinson, John Hart, Abraham Clark
Pennsylvania: Robert Morris, Benjamin Rush, Benjamin Franklin, John Morton, George Clymer, James Smith, George Taylor, James Wilson, George Ross
Delaware: Caesar Rodney, George Read, Thomas McKean
Maryland: Samuel Chase, William Paca, Thomas Stone, Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia: George Wythe, Richard Henry Lee, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Harrison, Thomas Nelson, Jr., Francis Lightfoot Lee, Carter Braxton
North Carolina: William Hooper, Joseph Hewes, John Penn
South Carolina: Edward Rutledge, Thomas Heyward, Jr., Thomas Lynch, Jr., Arthur Middleton
Georgia: Button Gwinnett, Lyman Hall, George Walton | | | Re: Happy Independence Day!
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#215244 07/04/10 11:19 AM 07/04/10 11:19 AM |
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | Thanks for that! I grew up on the New Hampshire seacoast. Portsmouth was in the early days a busier shipping port than Boston. Revolutionary War History was pounded into us as kids, many of the historic places being in easy sight. Much later I lived on "Thornton Street" not far from Whipple Road. Lots of history up there, everywhere you look and lots of old forts still standing from America's "first war". Here's one we sailed by every time we left Portsmouth Harbor to race. http://www.forttours.com/pages/fortmcclary.asp I'm going to make my kids read the entire thing, seems they aren't "getting it" taught their local schools. Oh, and then I'm going to hoist a few Sams, as a salute to "Samuel Adams" Brewer, Patriot. ;^)
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#215253 07/04/10 11:41 PM 07/04/10 11:41 PM |
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | Thanks for that! I grew up on the New Hampshire seacoast. Portsmouth was in the early days a busier shipping port than Boston. Revolutionary War History was pounded into us as kids, many of the historic places being in easy sight. Much later I lived on "Thornton Street" not far from Whipple Road. Lots of history up there, everywhere you look and lots of old forts still standing from America's "first war". Here's one we sailed by every time we left Portsmouth Harbor to race. http://www.forttours.com/pages/fortmcclary.asp I'm going to make my kids read the entire thing, seems they aren't "getting it" taught their local schools. Oh, and then I'm going to hoist a few Sams, as a salute to "Samuel Adams" Brewer, Patriot. ;^) Thanks Tad. Thanks for your reply Timbo, glad you feel the way you do.
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#215261 07/05/10 03:25 AM 07/05/10 03:25 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | A very nice document indeed but since we are on the subject of "important history", the following piece should also be taken note of. Especially note all the similarities with the declaration of independence. This document is called the "Act of Abjuration" or "Plakkaat van Verlatinghe", signed on 26 July 1581 And wikipedia may be quoted as stating : "The Act was remarkable for of its extensive Preamble, which took the form of an ideological justification, phrased as an indictment (a detailed list of grievances) of King Philip. This form, which is strikingly similar to that of the American Declaration of Independence, has often given rise to speculations that Thomas Jefferson, when he was writing the latter, was at least inspired by the Act of Abjuration. The Preamble was based on Vindiciae contra tyrannos by Philippe de Mornay, and other works of monarchomachs may have been sources of inspiration also.[ The rebels, in their appeal to public opinion, may have thought it more important to quote "authoritative" sources and refer to "ancient rights" they wished to defend. By deposing a ruler for having violated the Social Contract with his subjects, they were the first to apply the theoretical ideas that two hundred years later would ultimately form the basis for the American Declaration of Independence." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Act_of_AbjurationTimbo, this is the conflict that is linked to the 80 years of (intermittend) war that won the Netherlands their independence (from Spain but also other monarchs). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighty_Years%27_War You know, the one we talked about a few years back when you were over here. A sidepoint; The Netherlands is one of the few nations if not the only one that became a monarchy (again) after having been a republic for many many years. It was a republic from the 16th century to the 19th century and a constitutional monarchy from the 19th century to present. Note also that a constitutional monarchy is noticebly different from a common (absolute) monarchy. The function is much more ceremonial and subject to the laws of the land like any other person. Initially the function of our king/queen was indeed very comparable to the position of a modern president. Now it is much more symbolic with significantly reduced powers and a much reduced public profiel, but the function is still hereditary. Happy reading and learning, Wouter
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Posts: 5,525 | I vote we change National anthems. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5yTYZskz58Wouter loves this song!
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | I may be working in the Netherlands this year can you get Cuban cigars there?
I don't smoke but I don't think cubans are banned here in any way or form. Wouter
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | why are they banned outside the US? I thought it was an embargo-thing?
Is smoking cigars frowned upon in Europe and associated areas?
Jay
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | cuban cigars are over rated any way. +1
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