| New A-Cat Design Coming #21800 07/04/03 08:31 AM 07/04/03 08:31 AM |
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Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... | ANNOUNCING THE MORRELLI & MELVIN A2 A-CLASS CATAMARAN Newport Beach, CA - Designed by Pete Melvin of Morrelli & Melvin and Jeremy Laundergan of Askeland Engineering, the new Morrelli & Melvin A2 A-Class Catamaran builds on their success with the Waterat A-Cat they designed in 1996. Pete Melvin won the A-Cat World Championship with the Waterat in 1997 and the design went on to win five consecutive North American Championships. The International A-Class Catamaran is a high-performance “box rule” International Sailing Federation design specification dictating an 18-foot long, 7½-foot wide catamaran with 150 square feet of sail area and a minimum weight of 165 pounds. The class has been steadily gaining popularity in the US since the World Championship was hosted in Long Beach, CA in 1997. The new Morrelli & Melvin A2 A-Cat design features low wetted surface area hulls with a high longitudinal righting moment to resist pitching. The low profile bows reduce windage and provide a clean entry for both light air and hull flying conditions. Morrelli & Melvin, known for their race winning multihull sailboat designs such as PlayStation, Stars & Stripes, Formula 40s, Alinghi and the Inter 18, will build the A2 in their new Development and Prototype facility and are now accepting deposits for the A2. The ready-to-race (less sail) Morrelli & Melvin A2 A-Cat includes: • Lightweight Carbon hulls • Strikerless Carbon Beams • Carbon mast from Hall Spars • Carbon tiller and rudder head • High aspect daggerboards and rudders • Standing and running rigging with associated hardware Only $15,500 FOB Newport Beach, CA. Contact Morrelli & Melvin for terms and conditions or visit http://www.morrellimelvin.com/a2/ for more information including lines drawings and other details | | | Re: New A-Cat Design Coming
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#21801 07/04/03 10:45 AM 07/04/03 10:45 AM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | >>The ready-to-race (less sail) Morrelli & Melvin A2 A-Cat Only $15,500 FOB Newport Beach, CA.
Do I understand this correctly, the boat without its mainsail is US$15500,- ?
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#21804 07/06/03 03:03 AM 07/06/03 03:03 AM |
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Posts: 545 Brighton, UK | Its got to be pretty hard to put a price on a new boat, as a large part of that cost has to be on the tooling, so the amount you sell the boat for is closely related to how many you expect to sell, how many $15,000 A class cats will you sell a year? In a previous post Bob Roberts indicated that tooling was about $50,000, thats alot of money to recover on what is a very labour intensive, low volume, product to build. I work in the Automotive industry and with parts that are made from Aluminium and plastic, you can usually get them made for not much more than the raw material costs, so if we could find another 500,000 people like us every year our cats would probably only cost a few hundred dollars  . | | | Re: New A-Cat Design Coming
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#21805 07/07/03 09:55 AM 07/07/03 09:55 AM |
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | Hey Rick,
That's great news. I'm so glad the US is going to put a rod in the fire. It's very cool for M&M to step up and take the risk. It sounds like it will be a very stiff boat with all the carbon stuff.
Very Very Cool!!! Mike Hill
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#21807 07/11/03 08:31 AM 07/11/03 08:31 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Maybe they can weigh the boat in under the minimum so the extra weight, resulting in drag reduced wave stradling, are no problem.
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#21815 03/22/04 10:29 PM 03/22/04 10:29 PM |
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,012 South Australia Darryl_Barrett
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Posts: 1,012 South Australia | The "upside down" shape of the hull is to reduce the greatest detrimental drag factor of a "small" hull's forward movement, ie with "tumble home" (narrower at the deck than at the bottom of the hull), when the bow is depressed by a wind gust, and before it responds to the gust with forward motion, by reducing the "rough water drag factor" of the hull, (rough water factor is simply in lay mans terms, the distance that the water is parted at the surface) the greatest impedence to the hulls forward motion is actually reduced instead of dramatically increased, (the reverse is known by all sailors who have droped the bow of a hull that gets wider at the deckline deep in the water in a gust and the resistence has increased at a rapid rate and caused the "tripping effect" ie the stern wants to catch up to the bow , or as some would say "pitch pole") By reducing the rough water drag effect at the bow , as the hull is depressed, the hull actually becomes more efficient through the water instead of the reverse, and will drive down, through, and out with speed, instead of slowing and, at the least "bucking". darryl J Barrett. | | | Re: New A-Cat Design Coming
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#21819 03/24/04 04:01 PM 03/24/04 04:01 PM |
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Posts: 545 Brighton, UK | Hello Bill, Grob, I'm still a wee bit curious about the loads on the main beam. The tension in the sheet must "go" somewhere. Isn't a.m. tension rather large 6-7* (what you can pull by hand) of maybe 100-200N? Is this a force so small that it's negligible? I get it to be in the magnitude of 3KN would this be about correct? Or am I just sailing?
rgds Patrik Elfving Patrik, In the texts that I have read no one seems to take account of main sheet loads when looking at mast compression and main beam loads. I think the reason for this is that to a greater extent the main sheet acts just like another stay. If you put tension on the main sheet it is just like pretensioning the stays, and that does not affect the maximum compression loads in the mast. I think that the main sheet loads are not additional loads on the rig just loads that are necassary to react the wind loads. Does anyone else have a better explanation? Gareth | | |
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