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#223678 11/09/10 09:22 AM 11/09/10 09:22 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram OP
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Adventure/distance racing and buoy racing are completely different animals and require a different skill set as well as a different mindset. There are far fewer people that find it enjoyable to grind it out for 5-8 hours straight in a race where there is still just one winner. Plus the lack of bail out points and the fact that you really are on your own can push folks to spend their limited time and money on a different type of racing/sailing.
I think the lack of promotion for this one is deliberate. Mary genuinely worries about us when the conditions go to sh!t. He!! ask her how she felt about letting Randy Smyth sail solo last year. It still makes me chuckle thinking about Mary giving Randy the stink eye.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#223707 11/09/10 12:26 PM 11/09/10 12:26 PM |
Joined: Sep 2001 Posts: 756 Newport, RI wildtsail
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Posts: 756 Newport, RI | Thanks Rick!  I was really just trying to get your attention to do something like this. I know 60 boats is unrealistic, and 40 would be tough both to even get that many boats to come and safety wise. But it just simply stinks to make the effort for any race for 10-12 boats, 15 is even a stretch.... a solid 20 would be very cool and i'd be elated if it hovered around there or just above. There are plenty of people that go to Tradewinds that would be totally capable and competitive in the Steeplechase, but they don't go, and I don't think it's because most of them don't like distance. Let's look at last year's Tradewinds F18 & N20 fleet that wasn't at Steeplechase... Tomko, Nigel/Alex, Easton, Krantz, McCulley, Brown, Kohl, Newkirk, Carter, Pecorak(ha), Trinque, Robinson .. these guys are all the active distance racers that I know of, most of them haven't made the race in the last few years... you can add a bunch others that were at Tradewinds that I could see distance racing. How can these guys be convinced to make the extra effort? And I know there are guys that did Tradewinds but not Steeplechase, but I tried to convince Jay and Todd Hart to go, but man is it hard to convince a distance guy to do buoys! | | | Re: Steeplechase Logistics Questions
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#223709 11/09/10 12:37 PM 11/09/10 12:37 PM |
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Posts: 3,655 Portland, Maine | Speaking personally here,
Steeplechase comes at a bad time of year. When I was in school it was during exams, and when I was working, it was at the end of year when I was out of vacation time. I really have always wanted to do this race but, the fact that it takes a lot of driving to get to, necessitating at least a day on either side of the weekend for transportation always presented a problem for me.
That being said, now that I'm closer, that mitigates the problem, however, I've retired from competitive sailing. (Cue up the jokes about how I was never in it, its ok, I'm a big boy)
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#223711 11/09/10 12:59 PM 11/09/10 12:59 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Frank and I both like doing the steeplechase but it's a long way to go to the Keys. For me, I like to sail in the A-cat week and then do Tradewinds in the same trip. I can't swing the time to make two trips to the keys a month apart so I have to choose between a weekend race (Steeplechase) or spend 7 days sailing between A-cat and Tradewinds....chicken dinner.
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#223722 11/09/10 02:57 PM 11/09/10 02:57 PM |
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl ksurfer2
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | You got the chicken part right!
If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one | | | Re: Steeplechase Logistics Questions
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#223724 11/09/10 03:24 PM 11/09/10 03:24 PM |
Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... RickWhite 
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Posts: 3,355 Key Largo, FL and Put-in-Bay, ... | Well, for 26 years we have kept it the same time -- the second weekend in December. I am a big believer in keeping events at the same time yearly, whenever possible. The reasons are this is a good time of the year for wind and the water is still warm; room rates are at the lowest, just before the season starts; and the Keys are not jammed packed. By the way, the reason for the Tradewinds on MLK weekend is that room rates are lower juste after the New Year, and for some this gives you an extra day on Monday to get back home. Rick | | | Re: Steeplechase Logistics Questions
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#223726 11/09/10 03:36 PM 11/09/10 03:36 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram OP
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Rick,
Are we all set at The Caribbean Club? They know we are coming and all that?
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#223728 11/09/10 04:05 PM 11/09/10 04:05 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | You got the chicken part right! A chicken and an egg are lying in bed. The chicken is leaning against the headboard smoking a cigarette with a satisfied smile on its face. The egg, looking a bit ticked off, grabs the sheet, rolls over and says ... Well, I guess we finally answered "THAT question!"
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#223769 11/09/10 09:34 PM 11/09/10 09:34 PM |
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. Team_Cat_Fever
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | I don't get it I bet your soon to be wife sure does. Damn, the Gumbo man slams it out of the park!
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#223791 11/10/10 07:51 AM 11/10/10 07:51 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I don't get it I bet your soon to be wife sure does. I think he just called you a chicken.
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#223804 11/10/10 09:55 AM 11/10/10 09:55 AM |
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl ksurfer2
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Posts: 1,152 tampa, fl | That's great Rick, thanks! The Carib is a great location.
If your havin girl problems i feel bad for you son I got 99 problems but my beautiful wife ain't one | | | Re: Steeplechase Logistics Questions
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#223805 11/10/10 10:13 AM 11/10/10 10:13 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram OP
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Yes, thank you Mary! Come on now, we all know Mary is running the show 
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#224693 11/29/10 02:33 PM 11/29/10 02:33 PM |
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 172 Anacortes Sloansailing
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Posts: 172 Anacortes | I am planning to be there with my friend Jan on his F18HT. He likely has not registered, so just giving a heads up that we are coming. Definitely will rent a SPOT transceiver.
Talk about travel I am coming all the way from Anacortes! Haha not really will be in FLA already and how can I say no to the chance to sail this event!?!
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