| G-Force or G-Cat 21? #233911 06/21/11 11:15 PM 06/21/11 11:15 PM |
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Posts: 1 Northern VA | I own a beautiful G-Cat 5.7 and think it's a great boat. On the web, I read that Hans Giessler might have made a 21' version of this boat. Is this true? Has anyone seen one?
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#233916 06/22/11 06:02 AM 06/22/11 06:02 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Yes - I had the pleasure of racing on one at Myrtle Beach in 2002 or so. Nice boat. Great speed in a straight line but suffered a little while tacking due to the depth of the hulls in the water.
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#233934 06/22/11 10:31 AM 06/22/11 10:31 AM | MN3
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He is deffinatly one of my heros. He is now in his 70's and sails about every weekend with us. He is typically the first one to the target and damn near impossilble to beat in a race. | | | Re: G-Force or G-Cat 21?
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Posts: 1,911 South Florida & the Keys | Larry Cooper in Ft Lauderdale has one. He raced it this year the the Miami Key Largo. I beleive it is for sale as is my ARC 21.
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Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA dave mosley
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | There were 2 versions of the 21, one with an 8.5 beam, and the (I think) Grand Prix version with a 10 ft beam. I had the 8.5 beam, this is the one Jake and Sailed in 2002. Heres the skinny: I loved the 5.o and the 5.7, so I thought it natural to het the 6.0 or 6.1 whatever it was as it should be a monster. I found it to be WAY overpowered even in light air, although a new sailplan would better stabilize it as the jib was like a 135 genny, way, way, too big for upwind sailing. It had the same mast as the NACRA 6.0 and an older version of a Sq top with kinda a rounded top that extened over the top of the mast. Way too much sail area again unless you are sailing with 3 people. The boat was very fast slightly off wind and downwind(not too many spins in those days), but in big seas we couldnt tack the boat, as Jake said it had way too much depth in the hulls, they were almost waist high standing beside the boat on shore. Overall a new sailplan would have helped, but unless you are on a lake with no waves, tacking is an issue. And BTW, Hans is a hero, he had a lot to do with the boats we sail today, same as (dont throw rocks at me) Bill Roberts. These 2 guys were the Melvin and Morelli's of their day, and both still have great ideas, and both are accomplished cat sailors. Hans goes a step further with his humanitariaism with his Morningstar Fisherman mission. He goes into 3rd world countries and sets up fish farms so locals can eat, and teaches them to sustain it so there is a protein source for generations to come.
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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#234077 06/27/11 08:13 AM 06/27/11 08:13 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | What did it weigh?
A 6.0 mast? The NA mast?
That particular one had a pre-NA 6.0 Mast...so single diamond wires.
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Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA dave mosley
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Posts: 1,253 Columbia South Carolina, USA | Jake is right, single diamond wires, and I never weighed the boat, but I would say around 400 pounds, maybe a lttle less. Hans has a carbon 5.0 that he has sailed, I think it did not quite meet some form of the F16 rule, and according to the F16 forum it did not perform as well with the hull design. I would still like to have a carbon 5.0, its a good boat.
The men were amazed, and said, "What kind of a man is this, that even the winds and the sea obey Him?" Matthew 8:27
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#234198 06/29/11 09:15 AM 06/29/11 09:15 AM | MN3
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