| Does Anyone Actually Reef Their Main? #23761 09/01/03 02:14 AM 09/01/03 02:14 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 493 Minnesota Jeff Peterson OP
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Posts: 493 Minnesota | I read a description of a "H16 with a reefable main" in another post. Now, I know there ARE holes in the mailsail for reefing, but I always considered these holes in the same catagory as the boom vang on a H-16. I've never reefed my main. If its THAT windy, I don't sail. But I live on a freshwater lake. Maybe, if I sailed the coast where I think folks could get caught in bad wind, I'd have a different view, -but then again, maybe I wouldn't. What's your view on reefing a H-16? (I already hang fuzzy dice from my boom vang, so I can't think of any more alternative uses for those mainsail holes.)
Jeff Peterson H-16 Sail #23721 Big Marine Lake, MN
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#23762 09/01/03 02:44 PM 09/01/03 02:44 PM |
Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 591 Bradenton, FL Sycho15
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Posts: 591 Bradenton, FL | I sailed my old H16 once with no jib and a single-reefed mainsail. I was 16 at the time (~135lbs) and sailing single-handed. It was in a very protected bay, and I was still hiking out going upwind. I could still trapeze on a reach, too.
Being able to reef means you can sail in a lot more wind conditions, and since it can be done on the water, it's a nice safety feature when the storms come up.
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Joined: Apr 2002 Posts: 349 Fort Loramie, Ohio jmhoying
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Posts: 349 Fort Loramie, Ohio | Here's a photo of my wife and I sailing our H16 for the first time (first time either of us had ever been on a sailboat) It was windy and we reefed the main and left the jib in the van. We had a great time learning to sail and just as we were feeling confident, I turned downwind in a nice gust and promptly pitchpoled the boat. In other words, even with a reefed sail, you still have to be smarter than the boat. I'm looking into making my Prindle 18 sail reef-able, but haven't heard of a great way to lock the main halyard into the reefed position. The old Hobies were set up great for this. Jack Hoying Fort Loramie, Ohio
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Joined: Jul 2002 Posts: 170 Australia Jules_topcat
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Posts: 170 Australia | To be honest when i first got onto a 16 i was 15 years old and only weighed 58kg and well my crew weighed the same. At first we didn't know we could reef your main but now we do. The only problem now is i own a new boat and all new 16's dont have a reefable main so it comes back to skill and rigging. You will be surprised who much rigging can take the power out of your sails so just dont worry about reefing and have fun trapezing.
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Posts: 251 beaufort, sc | i like to reef when i'm sailing solo if the wind is 10kn+, at 150# righting is unlikely.
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Posts: 170 Australia | You dont need to reef your main ever. Im 17 and i sail my 16 by myself way to offen and well i have sailed in 25knots with main and jib and i addmit its a bit full on but god dam its fun and you wont believe how fast reaches really are unless your one up in those winds  One last thing I have alost capsized my 16 and been able to right it myself and i only weigh 68kg and thats nothing. When righting a hobie it doesn't matter to much about weight its more the way you do it.
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#23769 09/03/03 03:03 AM 09/03/03 03:03 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 493 Minnesota Jeff Peterson OP
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Posts: 493 Minnesota | These days, I am mostly sailing solo. I feel pretty comfortable up to about 20 knots. After that, the boat starts getting a bit spooky. One October, I just had to get one more sail in. I went out in some really heavy wind. I took a beam reach, but I had to spill all the wind possible just to stay stable. I got to a wind sheltered bay, and tacked back the way I came and called it quits. No fun when you have to constantly worry if the boats gonna dump into cold water. I'm not sure if reefing would have made it stable enough that day.
I also can't imagine sailing a H-16, without a jib. That's gotta make turning tough.
I'm gonna assume from the responses that reefing a H-16 has minimal advantages at best. If Hobie abandoned the option, there couldn't have been too many fans of reefing.
-But its still not too late to change my mind, if you have some good experiences to share.
Jeff Peterson H-16 Sail #23721 Big Marine Lake, MN
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Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 51 Queensland, Australia Philthy
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Posts: 51 Queensland, Australia | OK so there's some ballsy sailors out there that don't need to reef. For my money I'd rather have the flexability of it at least being available (and then not use it) or enjoy a strong wind sail without having to scare the crap out of ya wetsuit!  Just my 2 cents worth. Phil | | |
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