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Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | Roland Gaebler just posted this on Facebook.
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Sorry, I have no words for it..... I am so frustrated......ISAF target women 62.5kg and men 76.5kg weight for Kiteboarding evaluations in Santander. That means they calculated 139kg average for a women and men complete and we as Mixed Multihull Team are forced to get into a average of 130kg for a COMPLETE team weight. In Kiteboarding they use the normal mens weight analytics and in Mixed Multihull... they play with ultralights again? WHY? Can someone explain me this? Its looks something is on the wrong track...... by the way... average men is 81kg and women is 65kg.
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| 130 kg = 286 lbs. Isn't H16 class wt. 285?
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Palm Harbor, FL | My wife and I are only about 118kg...
The specs in the original request said, "it is desired that the sailors combined weight will be within the 120-140 kg range." I don't see what Mr Gaebler could possibly be complaining about.
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North-West Europe | What could he complain about ?
Well, that the olympic boat selection is not longer geared towards "less then athletically build 48 year old men living in some European country between the Netherlands and Poland"
I know, a wild guess at his motives.
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Detroit, MI | 130 kg = 286 lbs. Isn't H16 class wt. 285? Yes My wife and I are only about 118kg...
The specs in the original request said, "it is desired that the sailors combined weight will be within the 120-140 kg range." I don't see what Mr Gaebler could possibly be complaining about. He's complaining (albeit indirectly) that the Tornado is unlikely to be chosen as the Olympic multihull for 2016. | | | Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat?
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Palm Harbor, FL | He's complaining (albeit indirectly) that the Tornado is unlikely to be chosen as the Olympic multihull for 2016. But certainly he isn't surprised by this!? As already noted the specs specifically called for a boat optimized for a 130kg crew weight (+- 10kg.) I wonder why the Hobie Tiger or the Tornado were even entered. Surely nobody thought they would actually get chosen, did they?
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Looking for a Job, I got credi... | Wouter; Those charts are TARGET weights. Actuals are closer to 75 for men / 65 wowen. Don't usually quote Wiki; but this is based on captured data not charts that are desired numbers from the medical profession. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_weight My workes in this area and states that these charts are out of date and form a "desired growth path that is out of date". Note the dates on the linked page; US data is as old as your charts, I'd bet if recorded/,measured now the numbers weights would be higher.
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Asuncion, Paraguay | Those charts are TARGET weights. Actuals are closer to 75 for men / 65 wowen. Don't usually quote Wiki; but this is based on captured data not charts that are desired numbers from the medical profession. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average_weight My workes in this area and states that these charts are out of date and form a "desired growth path that is out of date". Note the dates on the linked page; US data is as old as your charts, I'd bet if recorded/,measured now the numbers weights would be higher. Why use the average weight of a population for choosing Olympic equipment? The average weight of existing competitors within the target age interval would make more sense. It is a boat for Olympic athletes, not for the average Joe/Jane.
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Sebring, Florida. | Why not use the average weight of Olympic Athletes in that age range.
Now, do we use the East German Woman's swimming team, or the Chineese woman's gymnastic team?
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Sebring, Florida. | Yeah, I know, I was just pointing out there is a very large range in Olympic athlete body types! Years ago I heard the East German coaches went to China to show them how to grow big swimmers, any truth to that?
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Northfield Mn | Why not use the average weight of Olympic Athletes in that age range.
Now, do we use the East German Woman's swimming team, or the Chineese woman's gymnastic team?
;^) did you know that the East German state does not exist since 1990? Hope your charts in the plane are updated  hahahah, I wanted to post the same thing. I say set a maximum weight, and no minimum. Get some people willing to really push the limits of the human body if they want to compete. Set the max combined crew weight at something like 165 lbs.
I'm boatless.
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california | Why not use the average weight of Olympic Athletes in that age range.
Now, do we use the East German Woman's swimming team, or the Chineese woman's gymnastic team?
;^) did you know that the East German state does not exist since 1990? Hope your charts in the plane are updated hahahah, I wanted to post the same thing. I say set a maximum weight, and no minimum. Get some people willing to really push the limits of the human body if they want to compete. Set the max combined crew weight at something like 165 lbs. 165 lbs combined? So an 80 and a 85 lbs crew. | | | Re: New crew weight limit for Olympic cat?
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Northfield Mn | Yep. I want to see athletes pushing themselves to the limits. Like horse jockeys
If they can get themselves down to say 60lbs each, all the better.
I'm boatless.
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