I love the rocketeer approach, Mike. As I once asked you, "Keep us sailing fast."
Are there Farrier, Corsair, Formula 40s, one off Stilletos or Sea Cart designs, sailing under PHRF in the race?
I have been haunted by that 30 footer since it appeared in the RTI against the Stl 23s years ago. They finished before the squall line intercepted the lead gaggle of 'beach cats' as we were entering Pensacola Bay, and the race was abandoned by the RComm due to pressure from the USCG. We were the actual third boat to finish behind John Suares (RIP) and the Viva 27. Only had the helm knocked out of my hand four times that night only to arrive at the finish line to find no souls there except for my team mate, Bud Schumann, and the Viva crew from MS. The NACRA 5.8 was a great boat for that race.
The Roberts 30 needs to be racing in PHRF for now. We are actually working on developing a modern PHRF system in the GYA. The I 20 guys are not liking the minus double digits we are showing after two years of data:)
Crew weight and power to weight ratio of the platform will play a role on the new frontier.
Bert Rice RTI I second place behind Carlton Tucker N 5.2 vs. H 18 We both jumped the Destin jetty that year because of the swells rolling a magic carpet for us in the low spot. The third boat did not make it, and they changed the rule for RTI II.
Thanks for the memory...
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: Karl_Brogger]
#248180 05/11/1205:20 PM05/11/1205:20 PM
Huh. Always light air.... Franken boats about.... Me thinks a C2 rig needs to find its way onto my Viper.
You all talk big now with 359 to go, we'll see who has the stones to suck it up and do the big drift! Make sure you up your ADD meds because the second you see something shiney grandpa Ding is going to own your a$$!
"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: RobLyman]
#248181 05/11/1205:29 PM05/11/1205:29 PM
"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: jkkartz1]
#248184 05/11/1206:36 PM05/11/1206:36 PM
The only Corsair in that race was a 24MKII which is not a great light air boat. If there had been a Sprint or Dash there it would have left the 24MKII in its wake.
After all, its not easy, banging your head against some mad buggers wall.
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: joeyg]
#248191 05/11/1210:03 PM05/11/1210:03 PM
When I get the time I'll look up the results so I can be more enlightened.
Meanwhile, we are planning to hold our 38th annual Pensacola Bay Sea Buoy Race tomorrow in possible record breaking conditions. Kirk Newkirk will be flying (registered this evening) the NACRA Carbon 20 in the 22.5 nm stress test out to Pensacola Sea Buoy 3.5 nm off the coast.
The incoming tide might mean that the surf contest back into the pass, from the sea buoy, will be 'All Time' NASCAR.
Mike, wish you were here.
To Joey - You are correct; the C 24 needs wind just like the NACRA 5.2 and the 5.5 SLs. Underpowered platforms have the year long edge against the "Frankenstein" boats. Let's have a Frankenstein Festival > the best costumed boat wins
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: catandahalf]
#248193 05/11/1211:11 PM05/11/1211:11 PM
sorry ... forgot to add that Kirk came up to me tonight and claimed he would do the 22.2 nms in eighty (80) minutes. I am taking that as a 'Poker Run' bet. Any takers on actual elapsed time in surfing conditions???
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: David Ingram]
#248197 05/12/1205:58 AM05/12/1205:58 AM
I hope there's a good story, not a, "I tripped over the dog..." type thing!
Mountain biking. Hard left turn, front wheel broke loose, fell on my left ankle and then left leg. I didn't get my foot out of the clipped in pedal fast enough and rolled/dislocated my ankle with my tibia offset from my ankle. When I came down on my leg, I had little support for my relatively smaller fibula, which broke an inch and a half below my knee. The break wasn't so bad, but the dislocation, with torn ligaments and tendons, required the screws to hold my ankle in place until the ligaments and tendos healed.
I just started walking without crutches a few days before the Mug Race. That was from an accident that happened the 3rd week of January. I really need to get out o the water.
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: jkkartz1]
#248285 05/13/1206:33 PM05/13/1206:33 PM
What if you could submit a polar for each boat to USS portsmouth committee? I thought someone said there's a smartphone app that draws one up.
Get the best sailor on the boat to drive it for a while, get the polars and crunch the numbers into some sort of DPN/PN. Then you wouldn't have to worry so much about individual mods, but rather how they all work together (or not) to make the boat faster...
I'd bet Randy's sew-sew from EC might have done pretty well at Mug, too?
Jay
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: Karl_Brogger]
#256987 02/05/1311:10 AM02/05/1311:10 AM
Huh. Always light air.... Franken boats about.... Me thinks a C2 rig needs to find its way onto my Viper.
Remember saying this Brogger. Are you going frankenboat it up in 2013 and show us how the big drift is done? It's always light air and I've heard you're a bit delicate so the chances you'll break a nail are low, but it can be a bit warm so you're makeup might run.
"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
Re: Congratulations to Dave & Dave
[Re: David Ingram]
#256991 02/05/1312:39 PM02/05/1312:39 PM
So... the OA should lead and choose the most workable handicap system.
The rudder club should lead...
That ain't gonna happen Mark. We (cat sailors) are the outliers. Their handicap guy is overloaded as it is with trying to merge PHRF, Portsmouth, etc. into some sort of believable spreadsheet. It is called RCHS (Rudder Club Handicap System) and no one but he knows (or should know) how it works. That way it is hard to protest anyway.
Our Portsmouth numbers are only the base number and he has the ability to make WAG adjustments as he sees fit.
Having said that, word is that he is willing to make bigger adjustments for next year. That was the talk after the race anyway. The new lady Commodore wants this to happen.
It might be a good time for some well written letters to find there way to the Rudder Club.
Address: Commodore Jim Maedel Rudder Club of Jacksonville 8533 Malaga Avenue Jacksonville, FL 32244 Telephone/fax: 904 264-4094 [email protected]
It is not too late to get your letters in to the new commodore, Jim Maedel. They promised last year to look into reviewing the ratings.
Time to write some letter folks.
Jack Woehrle Hobie Wave #100, Tiger Shark III HCA-NA 5022-1 USSailing 654799E Alachua FL/Put-In-Bay