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#249778 06/19/12 05:53 AM 06/19/12 05:53 AM | Scarecrow
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#249782 06/19/12 08:09 AM 06/19/12 08:09 AM |
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. Team_Cat_Fever
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | Nacra doesn't offer the N-20 or any of the older boats anymore, so put them in the same category. It all boils down to greenbacks, like scarecrow said it's business.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#249783 06/19/12 08:30 AM 06/19/12 08:30 AM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | You can't blame Hobie for going with the latest "Hot Trend" when it comes to watersports. The plastic kayaks are taking over the world, aided by stand up paddleboards. It's hard to beat the price, portability and set up time, not to mention the learning curve, vs. a catamaran.
I just returned from 5 days in the FL Keys, I saw about a zillion plastic kayaks and paddle boards, both out on the water and on car rooftops, coming and going.
I did not see a single Catamaran being trailerd to/from the Keys, and I drove all the way down to Key West. The only cats I found were the Hobie Waves at Founders Park in Islamorada, and one beat up H16 on the beach behind our hotel in Key West. I was going to ask about taking it out for a sail, there was some wind, but after a closer look, I saw it was a mess and in need of repairs.
Barb Short at Founder's Park Water Sports let my kids take out a couple stand up paddle boards. They had so much fun that my wife made me take a kayak out and chase them back in, as they were going over the horizon towards Key West! I would have taken a Wave out but there was no wind at the time, which made for great underwater visability from the paddle boards.
Thanks Barb! We all had a great time and the kids are still talking about the shark and rays they saw, while out on the paddle baords.
If you guys are ever in the Keys, be sure to stop into Founders Park Watersports and say Hi to Barb.
Blade F16 #777
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#249786 06/19/12 10:29 AM 06/19/12 10:29 AM |
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969 brucat
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Posts: 3,969 | When Hobie first started making the rotomolded stuff, lots of people laughed and scoffed. My first thought was, "GREAT! If it makes money for them, and allows them to keep making my boat (Hobie 16 at the time), that's fantastic!"
Of course, you can only extend the inevitable for so long. Regatta attendance (as one indicator) is way down since the 70s-80s and even 90s, and if people aren't buying new boats, it gets hard to justify building them.
I've done my part and bought 3 new H16s over the years. Of course, that means someone had to buy used ones from me, too...
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#249791 06/19/12 12:35 PM 06/19/12 12:35 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Lifestyle changes has shifted the casual recreational boater from sail boats to small exercise oriented craft.... something you do for an hour or so and get a work out. Hobie was on this with the kayaks and the adventure pedal kayak thing.... now its the stand up paddle boards.
The issue we face is How to get what sailors we now have interested in racing as part of a club.... Casual beer cans on Wed nights to Worlds or the Great Texas race.... all are good.
What we don't care much about is recreational sailing. This is not something that race clubs are organized or are interested in supporting. My club has several rec sailors who have zero interest in learning how to make a boat go fast... much less race it. These sailors just need beach access and have no need or interest in organization.
So... I would NOT say that Hobie is slacking off.... I would say that WE are out of ideas on how to get sailors converted into racing sailors.
Nacra makes fiberglass entry boats.... Hobie makes plastic entry boats... Until you want to go fast... Plastic is king. The fundamental issue is time, water access and price (boat plus storage)
Hobie will tell you that by putting a sail option on their Kayak... they are restarting the process of creating sailors.... maybe they will go racing someday!
crac.sailregattas.com
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#249802 06/19/12 05:03 PM 06/19/12 05:03 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 1,252 California mmiller
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Posts: 1,252 California | Fyi... we don't sell SUP. We are sailing and kayaking. SUP is done by Hobie Designs which sells surfboards (hobie.com). We do sell catamarans by the thousands and I'm pretty sure we build more Waves than all other brands of cats put together. Not sure why people think they are just for resorts... although we do own that market world wide. Most are sold to recreational sailors. Hobie is alive and well... hardly slacking these days. Like... Hobie Big Day Out. Similar to a regatta, but just for fun and all about Hobie Mirage Islands. And yes... kayaking is king these days. Fishing is hot too... Hobie Diawa Worlds on supplied boats... all new fully rigged Hobie Pro Anglers. We are currently having our biggest year ever... each and every year seems to go this way... we are alive and well! http://www.facebook.com/HobieCatCompanyhttp://www.facebook.com/hobieislandclubhttp://www.facebook.com/hobie.fishing | | | Re: Hobie Slacking Off?
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#249805 06/19/12 05:10 PM 06/19/12 05:10 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Glad to hear... .... Sadly, Its our racing scene that is just hanging in there.
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#249807 06/19/12 05:20 PM 06/19/12 05:20 PM |
Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 921 Alachua, FL Mugrace72
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We do sell catamarans by the thousands and I'm pretty sure we build more Waves than all other brands of cats put together.
Not sure why people think they are just for resorts... although we do own that market world wide. Most are sold to recreational sailors.
Keep up the good work Matt.
Jack Woehrle Hobie Wave #100, Tiger Shark III HCA-NA 5022-1 USSailing 654799E Alachua FL/Put-In-Bay | | | Re: Hobie Slacking Off?
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#249852 06/20/12 10:16 AM 06/20/12 10:16 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, Mike Hill
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Posts: 833 St. Louis, MO, | Times change. Companies adapt or end up like another Wang or Kodak. Good luck to Hobie.
Mike Hill N20 #1005
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