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#252389 09/17/12 08:28 AM 09/17/12 08:28 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | I was just saying the racers I know including myself are anything but cheap more like mugging victims and that is the circle I know. I venture a guess that if more folks spent money on equipment like your circle, the overall pricing would go down? I personally don't recall ever having bought a new boat, although I have purchased new equipment (sails, trampolines, cordage) for them regularly. So I wouldn't quite make it to your "circle of trust"... Come to think of it, I don't think I've ever purchased a brand-new car, home or other capital item either..
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used. But are they considered competitive? Or would I be purchasing them strictly for pleasure sailing. To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding), but I have grown quite accustomed to spin reaching...
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#252395 09/17/12 10:08 AM 09/17/12 10:08 AM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used. But are they considered competitive? Or would I be purchasing them strictly for pleasure sailing. To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding), but I have grown quite accustomed to spin reaching... They are still competitive on a club and local level, not Worlds material necessarily( but that's all of sailing). Jake sails a Boyer MkIV and is competitive. I did better, at the Admiral's cups that I did on my MKIV, than I have done since I got rid of it. There could be other reasons besides the boat, but...
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#252396 09/17/12 11:25 AM 09/17/12 11:25 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | well, that's pretty much what I'd use it for anyway out here on the Gulf, although chop may be problematic?
I know the A class has a bit of a bad rap when it comes to boats/masts being "fragile", but how bad is it really? I'm not (or at least try) going to crash into docks, but will the mast handle the occasional flip?
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#252398 09/17/12 11:39 AM 09/17/12 11:39 AM |
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Posts: 3,224 Roanoke Island ,N.C. | well, that's pretty much what I'd use it for anyway out here on the Gulf, although chop may be problematic?
I know the A class has a bit of a bad rap when it comes to boats/masts being "fragile", but how bad is it really? I'm not (or at least try) going to crash into docks, but will the mast handle the occasional flip? Yes. The boats are alot tougher than you'd expect. Message me or start a new thread and I can give you some examples. Don't want to hi-jack this thread anymore than I already have.
"I said, now, I said ,pay attention boy!"
The cure for anything is salt water - sweat, tears, or the sea Isak Dinesen If a man is to be obsessed by something.... I suppose a boat is as good as anything... perhaps a bit better than most. E. B. White
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#252414 09/17/12 10:51 PM 09/17/12 10:51 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | well, that's pretty much what I'd use it for anyway out here on the Gulf, although chop may be problematic?
I know the A class has a bit of a bad rap when it comes to boats/masts being "fragile", but how bad is it really? I'm not (or at least try) going to crash into docks, but will the mast handle the occasional flip? I have a 13 year old boat that was and is still 6 pounds overweight. I still get good results with (split 2 races with Harper last weekend). It's all original and I fear no wind with it. Do stupid things, get stupid results. You do need to be more diligent with releasing the downhaul downwind but its still a durable boat.
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Too bad I couldn't put the old I-18/I20 mast on there. Would probably sink the boat.
I mean, crap, I hit a friggin bridge with it and it only scraped the paint. Kirk hit a BIGGER bridge with his and still sailed on...
Jay
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | Yeah, but other than being tough the I20 mast has nothing going for it.
I'm boatless.
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#252422 09/18/12 11:24 AM 09/18/12 11:24 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding)
You contemplating buying a boat is like Timbo being more inclined to attend a regatta! And that's what they call a twofer b!tches. Silver fleet has made me mean.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#252428 09/18/12 12:36 PM 09/18/12 12:36 PM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Hey, I finally got mommy to give up the credit cards. Now the mortgage company has stopped calling and the bank isn't charging overdraft fees... So I'm one step closer...
And I got the kitchen pass revoked for Wildcat ("does this dress make me look fat?" is a frigin trick question!) but did get it for Hiram's, so I guess I'll have to postpone my chirrosis for another month.
Jay
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | At least it's not as expensive as owning horses (timbo)
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Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD | You can also pick them up (decent ones like Boyer Mk3 and Mk4s) for 4-5k used. But are they considered competitive? Or would I be purchasing them strictly for pleasure sailing. To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding), but I have grown quite accustomed to spin reaching... They are still competitive on a club and local level, not Worlds material necessarily( but that's all of sailing). Jake sails a Boyer MkIV and is competitive. I did better, at the Admiral's cups that I did on my MKIV, than I have done since I got rid of it. There could be other reasons besides the boat, but... We (quick N20) regularly get beaten round the course by a great sailor on his Boyer MkV when the wind is light. Its a rocket ship upwind.
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | At least it's not as expensive as owning horses (timbo) YET...
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | To be honest, I have contemplated one for a while (good price, would fit in garage, great singlehanding)
You contemplating buying a boat is like Timbo being more inclined to attend a regatta! And that's what they call a twofer b!tches. Silver fleet has made me mean. Now I'm contemplating buying a boat, to let Jay sail it at Wildcat, with one of my horses as crew. ;^)
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