| what is a good 1st beachcat to buy for the beginning racer? #273976 07/17/14 07:21 AM 07/17/14 07:21 AM |
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Posts: 12 | I would like to buy a beachcat for the purpose of racing it in CRAW (Catamaran racing association of Wisconsin) events. They run a handicap system so basically any beachcat would work. I have been racing sailboats all of my life - I started with optis, moved on to scows, and keelboats. Then I bought a Gougeon 32 catamaran 3 years ago. I have been racing the cat against monohulls in mixed fleet racing, and I realized that I haven't improved much in the last couple of years. I still have a long long way to go to be competitive with the G32 in a multihull fleet. So, my plan is to buy a beachcat and race other beachcats with the hope I would improve more quickly as a multihull racer. I weigh about 170lbs, and would like a cat that I could race solo, but could also race with a crew if I could find someone interested. What type of cat should I look for?
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | The best piece of advice that I have to offer is to get a boat that is actively being raced in your area in a sizable fleet. I raced as an x-boat (the odd boat) for several years and it wasn't until I bought a boat and assimilated with one of the more active fleets in our area that I really started to learn and improve at a rapid rate.
You have a lot of options at 170lbs.
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If you own a boat that has a nice fleet nearby it improves your skills faster and a lot cheaper than having to travel extensively to find regattas with boats of your type.
Buying a boat you can "grow into" is another good idea. Of course, almost any boat fits this category since they are all easy to learn but difficult to master.
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | what is a good 1st beachcat to buy for the beginning racer? What kind of experience do you have? That's the biggest question I think. If you are really green and just getting into sailing, the more complicated the boat the more likely you are to be turned off by the sport. Not to scare you off, but the modern boats power quickly too, and if you don't know how to manage that power they are a handful at best. Most everyone on here started with a H16, they're durable, cheap used, and easy to unload if you want to move onto something different. BUT, if you're coming from another spinnaker boat, then the transition wouldn't be all that hard. CRAW is made up mostly of F16's and F18's. It's a pretty even split with a few other boats here and there. They race on handicap, but the difference between the two main classes is pretty minimal. It's basically boat for boat. No matter what kind of catamaran, CRAW would welcome you. Don't think they'd turn you away if you showed up with a Hobie 14 or something. I have a 2012 Viper I would like to sell if you are interested.
I'm boatless.
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I would like to buy a beachcat for the purpose of racing it in CRAW (Catamaran racing association of Wisconsin) events. They run a handicap system so basically any beachcat would work. I have been racing sailboats all of my life - I started with optis, moved on to scows, and keelboats. Then I bought a Gougeon 32 catamaran 3 years ago. I have been racing the cat against monohulls in mixed fleet racing, and I realized that I haven't improved much in the last couple of years. I still have a long long way to go to be competitive with the G32 in a multihull fleet. So, my plan is to buy a beachcat and race other beachcats with the hope I would improve more quickly as a multihull racer. I weigh about 170lbs, and would like a cat that I could race solo, but could also race with a crew if I could find someone interested. What type of cat should I look for? Here you go Chris: http://www.formula16.net/
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | Buy a very well set up boat with a very good spinnaker and you will master it a lot quicker
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Posts: 4,119 Northfield Mn | Chris, I can try and get you out on the water Friday if you like.
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Posts: 12 | Budget depends on what I would need to spend in order to get a "club competitive" cat that is for the most part squared away. I have a feeling I will be at the back of the pack for a while, and I would like my first cat to be good enough to win races if a good sailor was sailing it. Basically I don't want the boat to be the reason I finish last  A new NacraF20c or a new flying phantom are out of bounds, but a F16 or F18 that's a couple of years old looks doable.
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | You have the right attitude, grasshopper. Get the boat out of the equation. If you don't, you'll blame it (instead of the real reason for being slow) every time.
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Unregistered | that's a great place to be able to start from. Many if not most are limited with a low starting budget. That being the case, F16 sounds like the right boat. mostly because it is a 1 or 2 person cat/racer Budget depends on what I would need to spend in order to get a "club competitive" cat that is for the most part squared away. I have a feeling I will be at the back of the pack for a while, and I would like my first cat to be good enough to win races if a good sailor was sailing it. Basically I don't want the boat to be the reason I finish last  A new NacraF20c or a new flying phantom are out of bounds, but a F16 or F18 that's a couple of years old looks doable. | | |
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