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Naples, FL | Was it Bethwait who indicated the AWA in laminar flow (light) air is up to 10 - 20 degrees different at the top of the mast than at the water level?
But I see the greatest (personal) need for downhaul to keep the leech from hooking...
Jay
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Northfield Mn | That's my reason for pounding on the downhaul in light air, to keep the leech from hooking and keeping a continual shape. Softer battens would also help, but I'm not a huge fan of dropping a main on the water unless it is going to stay down. Singlehanded its a frickin' pain in the butt to pull it up, and keep the boat more or less in the wind.
I'm boatless.
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South Carolina | That's my reason for pounding on the downhaul in light air, to keep the leech from hooking and keeping a continual shape. Softer battens would also help, but I'm not a huge fan of dropping a main on the water unless it is going to stay down. Singlehanded its a frickin' pain in the butt to pull it up, and keep the boat more or less in the wind. You should try that with beach wheels still tied under the hulls.
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Northfield Mn | I've heard that works like a champ....
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You should try that with beach wheels still tied under the hulls.
man, that gets funnier every time you say it Jake  especially since you're a good sailor!
Jay
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| That's my reason for pounding on the downhaul in light air, to keep the leech from hooking and keeping a continual shape. Softer battens would also help, but I'm not a huge fan of dropping a main on the water unless it is going to stay down. Singlehanded its a frickin' pain in the butt to pull it up, and keep the boat more or less in the wind. Should have stayed with the Hobie 16, and attended more NAs. In RI in 2006, before the first race (in heavy air and huge seas), one of the Mexican teams intentionally capsized the boat, so they could adjust battens. Can't make that stuff up... Mike | | | Re: heavy downhaul in light air
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South Carolina | That's my reason for pounding on the downhaul in light air, to keep the leech from hooking and keeping a continual shape. Softer battens would also help, but I'm not a huge fan of dropping a main on the water unless it is going to stay down. Singlehanded its a frickin' pain in the butt to pull it up, and keep the boat more or less in the wind. Should have stayed with the Hobie 16, and attended more NAs. In RI in 2006, before the first race (in heavy air and huge seas), one of the Mexican teams intentionally capsized the boat, so they could adjust battens. Can't make that stuff up... Mike when spreader rake was all the rage in the a-cats a few years ago, you would see them capsizing the boat all the time to make an adjustment to the spreaders.
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Naples, FL | why isn't spreader rake "all the rage" now? Did something change with sail/mast design?
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Northfield Mn | I think they went back to adjusting tension.
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South Carolina | why isn't spreader rake "all the rage" now? Did something change with sail/mast design? I think that whole thing started because Ashby did it once.
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| why isn't spreader rake "all the rage" now? Did something change with sail/mast design? I think that whole thing started because Ashby did it once. That's usually all it takes! Mike | | | Re: heavy downhaul in light air
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Naples, FL | I think that whole thing started because Ashby did it once. I'll bet he does stuff like that once in a while just to F with you guys.... "Look, he painted his daggarboards pink. It must be faster" and then there's a run on pink gelcoat the next week... For someone who can make a 4x8 piece of plywood somehow sail fast, it must be fun to make the occasional poke at us luddites...
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