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Re: security ideas [Re: Team_Cat_Fever] #279454
06/11/15 10:37 AM
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very nice. It's good that you caught that knuckle head. I know a guy that runs a sailing gear business (that rhymes with Mike) once had some guys clean out his workshop warehouse tools. There was a security camera system but the resolution was only good enough to get a head count on how many people were involved. The quality wasn't good enough to ID anybody...which would be a major let down.


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Re: security ideas [Re: waterbug_wpb] #279455
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You could/should ask management what it means, but if I had to guess, it just means that no one is sitting in a booth watching the live camera footage. I'm sure it's recorded, but then you're at their mercy as to how cooperative they'd be if you needed to have the police see the tapes.

You're probably on the right path with the cover. Besides, how long can a tramp last sitting out in FL sun?

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Re: security ideas [Re: brucat] #279456
06/11/15 01:36 PM
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It's an F-24, but yes, the netting would probably only last about 5 years tops sitting in the FL sun..

It is made by that Sunrise company though... looks pretty sturdy.

I'm booking about 5 regattas this coming season (starting September) and if I can cram in a few cruises to the Keys I shouldn't be leaving it sitting for too long at a stretch... But I guess it only takes about 5 minutes to swipe something...

The Tasco 3MP game camera says it's got good resolution to about 25' away (not so much on the IR / Night side), so that might just fit the bill... The building I'm backed up to is metal, so maybe a magnetic mount about 10' up would give me a good field of vision but still close enough to get decent resolution...


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Re: security ideas [Re: waterbug_wpb] #279461
06/11/15 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb

The Tasco 3MP game camera says it's got good resolution to about 25' away (not so much on the IR / Night side), so that might just fit the bill...


..perhaps that "good resolution" is adequate to determine if it's a fox or a deer in the picture?



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Re: security ideas [Re: waterbug_wpb] #279465
06/12/15 08:51 AM
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If the law around your area is like ours then the police can use the images in court provided you gave fair warning that there was video surveillance. Fair warning here is obviously visible cameras or signs. Maybe worth asking them.

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Originally Posted by DennisMe
If the law around your area is like ours then the police can use the images in court provided you gave fair warning that there was video surveillance. Fair warning here is obviously visible cameras or signs. Maybe worth asking them.


Here in Fla. you don't have to give fair warning of video. Why would you warn them? Warnings only keep honest people honest. Warnings will only help them defeat the cameras. You do have to warn if your recording audio inside a building.

I had a problem with coward kids throwing rocks through an open garage door in my shop. I installed an 8 camera system with three of them mounted looking out that door from different angles. I mounted them low so I could get straight on images. Didn't take long before I got him on video. Worth every dime to see the 14 year old tough guy handcuffed in the back of a cop car crying.

I would use the game camera. However I would use more than one. At least two and maybe three. One mounted under the boat might give you a look at a their car or a tattoo on their leg. Maybe mount one on the inside of the drop in board looking back at the ****. Maybe you could make some sort of canvas bag to cover the masthead that held a camera so it wasn't easily visible.


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Re: security ideas [Re: catman] #279480
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that sounds like a good bit of work...

So far, I haven't noticed anything else has been repurposed... but the line hasn't returned either...

I may have to limit my target area (especially the movement activated cameras) since I've got other trailers in the space(s) next to me, so there might be a lot of photos of cars/people wandering about.

So perhaps the magnet mounted single camera for now, to see if (1) people frequent the boat, and (2) to make it obvious I'm keeping track (the boat is big enough they have to climb aboard to mess with stuff for the most part).

And it will take my selfies when I stop by the boat 3x per week. There seems to be another dude who's in his unit almost daily (I think it's being used as his workshop). Maybe I'll buy him a few beers occasionally and ask him to keep an eye out...


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Re: security ideas [Re: waterbug_wpb] #279483
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
There seems to be another dude who's in his unit almost daily (I think it's being used as his workshop). Maybe I'll buy him a few beers occasionally and ask him to keep an eye out...


hmm....are you sure he's not the villain??


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Re: security ideas [Re: northsea junkie] #279492
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I wondered about that myself Ronald... but he's got so much stuff in that unit I can't quite pick out if any of the ropes look like mine (should have spliced eyes in them)...

Two Goldwing motorcycles, some nice woodworking equipment, and some other stuff... If I start seeing winch drums or halyards, it will be time to break out the .45


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Re: security ideas [Re: rehmbo] #279558
06/22/15 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by rehmbo
Just hook it up to an electric fence power supply. Enough to get their attention, but not enough to send anyone to the morgue. A few other nice booby traps could be fun smile

And a game camera for the ensuing fun they will have and the endless hours of entertainment for you!


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Re: security ideas [Re: dave mosley] #279559
06/22/15 10:41 AM
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kind of like a cat on tinfoil...


If I get around to setting it up (rebuilding the disc brakes on the trailer right now... ugh) I'll post the photos...


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Re: security ideas [Re: waterbug_wpb] #279571
06/23/15 01:20 AM
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Maybe hanging up a video surveillance sign and a fake security camera is enough to scare people away.

Re: security ideas [Re: Tony_F18] #279576
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well, it has been a little quiet there for the past few weeks. I took off pretty much anything that could be "liberated" or "repurposed" without a large amount of work so maybe they just went hunting for something easier to get.

Or maybe it was just one of those random things that got me tweaked..

So it will take another 30 minutes to get the boat ready for a sail, but I guess that's the price for not being able to keep the boat at the house...

But sailing isn't on the top of the list right now... Maintenance is. I'm seeing water in the amas which is likely coming in through the inspection ports when it rains, so I'll be removing and re-sealing those (4 per side) after I'm done with the brakes. Then, it's off to inspect the bunkboards and coverings on that, re-wire the brake lights, and troubleshoot the nav lights on the boat (stern light is out).

So, as long as no hurricanes disrupt my schedule, I'll be done in a month or so. The good thing is that most of this maintenance can be completed between daysails...


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Maybe all of that maintenance will serve a dual purpose, and more visible activity (from you) will serve as an additional deterrent for the thieves.

Mike

Re: security ideas [Re: waterbug_wpb] #279578
06/23/15 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by waterbug_wpb
well, it has been a little quiet there for the past few weeks. I took off pretty much anything that could be "liberated" or "repurposed" without a large amount of work so maybe they just went hunting for something easier to get.

Or maybe it was just one of those random things that got me tweaked..

So it will take another 30 minutes to get the boat ready for a sail, but I guess that's the price for not being able to keep the boat at the house...

But sailing isn't on the top of the list right now... Maintenance is. I'm seeing water in the amas which is likely coming in through the inspection ports when it rains, so I'll be removing and re-sealing those (4 per side) after I'm done with the brakes. Then, it's off to inspect the bunkboards and coverings on that, re-wire the brake lights, and troubleshoot the nav lights on the boat (stern light is out).

So, as long as no hurricanes disrupt my schedule, I'll be done in a month or so. The good thing is that most of this maintenance can be completed between daysails...


on the nav lights; You might find an easy fix if you start with the bulb/bulb socket connections and make sure the bulbs are seated with some di-electric grease between them and the contacts in the socket (dielectric grease is available at most automotive stores).


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Re: security ideas [Re: Jake] #279579
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Check. Also looked at the bulb and it appears the filament is intact.

My next step is to check to see if any voltage is coming to the socket. The bow lights work, so I know there is energy coming from the panel....

Lobster season is fast approaching smile


Jay

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