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#280251 08/16/15 08:21 AM 08/16/15 08:21 AM |
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 3,969 brucat
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Posts: 3,969 | 16 foot cats are a handful for two adults at times, and very difficult for two young kids. Except for the lightest of breezes, I think you're asking for trouble.
Get him a Wave, and tie a handheld VHF to his PFD, and show him how to use it.
Mike
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#280252 08/16/15 03:24 PM 08/16/15 03:24 PM |
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands northsea junkie
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Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands | I would say yes, a 13 year old boy can manage a Dart16.
Ofcourse assuming that he's not sailing on the sea and in moderate winds. Give him a good fixed lifevest with a collar (not the one that blowup). And a cell telephone in a watertightbag.
And practice with him righting the cat until he can dream it.
You've probably heard of the Dutch girl which sailed solo around the world in here 16th year. She sailed already alone across the North Sea to England at 14!
ronald RAIDER-15 (homebuilt)
hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?.. "huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
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#280253 08/16/15 05:01 PM 08/16/15 05:01 PM |
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Posts: 858 Victoria Australia | 16 foot cats are a handful for two adults at times, and very difficult for two young kids. Except for the lightest of breezes, I think you're asking for trouble...... Agreed 16 foot is going to scare the daylights out of him WHEN it goes wrong & it will go wrong at some stage, You'll end up with a son that hates sailing and is terrified of it aswell, so buy him a 16footer by all means if that's what your attempting to achieve As you've asked this very same question on other forums and had a vast field of answers, they have all mostly been along the same vein..... 14foot is probably still a large boat for a 13yearold and a 12 footer is probably just right, it will then depend on your sons skills level, strength, & mental fortitude as to what to get size wise that's the right boat for HIM....  I'm leading my 12footer (sail# 3)out for a sail... I was 13 years of age and the oldest 'kid' in this pic was 15 My dad sailed a 16footer at this time and there's no way in hell he'd have even thought I'd be able to take his boat out.... EDIT: photo circa 1973 
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Yar, & this ere post be done without a sin'le drop o' rum passin' me lips
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#280256 08/17/15 08:55 AM 08/17/15 08:55 AM |
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL waterbug_wpb
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Its the abnormal circumstances that kill. I would say not just that.. The unexpected is what seems to kill most.. So try to anticipate any/every item that could go wrong (weather, equipment, people, etc) and practice solutions (MOB, dismasting, turtle, bad tide/current, injury, etc) I recall not being allowed to singlehand my family sunfish until I could successfully right it, raise & lower sail on water, retrieve a lost centerboard, and sail without a rudder. I think I was around that age (12-14 years).
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#280258 08/17/15 02:47 PM 08/17/15 02:47 PM |
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Posts: 524 Petten Netherlands | Or dad is seeking for armouring his arguments with his obstinate and self confident son.
Who knows he can do it and we are about to lose the future world top catsailer!!!!!!!
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ronald RAIDER-15 (homebuilt)
hey boy, what did you do over there, alone far out at sea?.. "huh....., that's the only place where I'm happy, sir.
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#280272 08/20/15 08:18 AM 08/20/15 08:18 AM |
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Posts: 2,844 42.904444 N; 88.008586 W | 16 foot cats are a handful for two adults at times, and very difficult for two young kids. Except for the lightest of breezes, I think you're asking for trouble.
Get him a Wave, and tie a handheld VHF to his PFD, and show him how to use it.
Mike Yea, get haim a Wave, and totally turn him off to catsailing on these slow/bathtub boats! Get real, and don't let him go out when it's blowing 'dogs off chains'
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#280295 08/21/15 09:28 AM 08/21/15 09:28 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | Mike,
Will this kid have to move the boat around by himself? If so, small and light would be the key words...
Jay
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#280356 08/28/15 02:06 PM 08/28/15 02:06 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 493 Minnesota Jeff Peterson
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Posts: 493 Minnesota | With the limited information provided, NONE of us can give you a reliable answer. Cold water and a gust front from an unexpected thunderstorm could kill the best of us! Hands on instructions from a knowledgable sailor is your best bet.
Jeff Peterson H-16 Sail #23721 Big Marine Lake, MN
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