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#288954 10/30/18 12:18 PM 10/30/18 12:18 PM |
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD samc99us
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Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD | Why do you want a carbon rig? Yours options there would be the following:
1) Hall spars Nacra 17 rig cut down ~ 2'. 2) A F16 rig from Falcon marine or similar. 3) A custom Fiberfoam rig or Hall rig.
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#288956 10/30/18 12:55 PM 10/30/18 12:55 PM |
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 312 Memphis, Tennessee Damon Linkous 
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Posts: 312 Memphis, Tennessee | I have a virtually new (stored indoors, virtually never used) Hobie FX One...We brought the boat up to date with all the latest "Gucci" hardware...does anyone know if there is a carbon mast available from another cat? I heard rumors of a carbon mast from a 17' boat that is no longer made..cant recall the brand...anyone??Help! Are you missing your mast? Where are you located? Contact Nacra dealers, you never know what they have in the ceiling or warehouse. I know Key Sailing https://www.KeySailing.com has stray masts from time to time and would be a good place to start. | | | Re: Carbon mast
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#288971 11/06/18 08:33 AM 11/06/18 08:33 AM |
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 25 Texas TexasTuma
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Posts: 25 Texas | Fully understand the stiffness and weight. Does changing to a carbon rig, place the boat as a different FX One? Or, the class rules allow carbon and if you have an aluminum, you're SOL? I would love to change mine out to carbon, but I don't want to incur the cost.
Cheers... Scott Tuma P 18-2 Mod Turbo "FrankenKitty" Tornado Classic "Fast Furniture"
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#288974 11/08/18 02:18 PM 11/08/18 02:18 PM |
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD samc99us
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Posts: 932 Solomon's Island, MD | The mast on the FX One is beyond stiff and heavy compared to Carbon. I thought it would be the last, ultimate upgrade and give an advantage... Not all carbon masts are flexible or light. The older Nacra ones are neither, however they are good strong masts that perform well. Still, hunting for a carbon rig isn't something I would do with this boat. A Nacra 17 carbon rig is $6,300 excluding shipping, spreaders or diamond wires: https://www.h2o-sensations.com/en/n...00000030210.html#/boat_type-nacra_17_mk2A-Cat rigs are $5000+ fitted, less shipping. Your best bet is an F16 aluminum rig, lighter, more flexible and a wingmast. Still looking at $3500 easy.
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#288993 11/19/18 04:52 PM 11/19/18 04:52 PM |
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Posts: 1,304 Gulf Coast relocated from Cali... | I sailed a borrowed FX 1 quite a few times. Youre right though, that mast is a beast. It's the same extrusion as the Hobie Tiger but shortened. I'd look for a good F18 (wing) mast and cut it down. Or an F16. You're going to be racing Portsmouth anyway, so who cares about Hobie Class rules. That boat was a rocket up wind solo in 20 plus knots with my 250 lbs on it. Stuffing the bows wasn't that hard to recover from either. I actually was entertaining the thought of finding a Fox (FX1's big brother) to replace my N20 with. I loved the way the FX drove and handled. Got the way better set up now though with the F20C.
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#288996 11/21/18 11:52 AM 11/21/18 11:52 AM |
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Posts: 25 Texas | One thing to consider... if you have a boat that varies from class rules, it now becomes custom and can have a different rating - even if the dimensions are the same. The inertia and righting moments can change and therefore the boat performs better than a class boat, etc... I understand about using parts and pieces around to make something work; but it comes with criticism. I built a boat out of spare parts that draws a lot of attention. Just consider it and accept the consequences...
Cheers... Scott Tuma P 18-2 Mod Turbo "FrankenKitty" Tornado Classic "Fast Furniture"
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#289133 06/20/19 11:27 PM 06/20/19 11:27 PM |
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia JeffS
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Posts: 1,383 Kingston SE South Australia | I have a 32 foot long Tornado carbon mast on my Nacra 18 square, it is very light and easy to rig, stiff enough to hold the square top sail up and I'm very happy with it. The down side of finding another mast is the rigging points may be in a different place and you can't just pop rivet new attachments for the hounds, the fitting will probably be something that is manufactured to slide inside the mast and be resined in place. I just got different stays to suit the mast made, good luck with your project
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