| Re: Jib Sheets on a Tornado
[Re: Chris_A]
#36077 07/28/04 04:04 PM 07/28/04 04:04 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | Sounds like you've not threaded the jib 2:1 purchase correctly around the hexaratchet block. The wire line is called the "horse" and has nothing to do with the barberhauler (the line running into the forebeam from a small block around the jib sheet line). The horse cable allows you to place the sheeting (hexarachet) block fore/aft to change the angle the sail is pulled at, tensioning/easing the leech/foot of the sail to suit conditions. See my classic tornado rigging gallery at: Classic Rig
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#36080 05/24/06 01:15 PM 05/24/06 01:15 PM |
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I've recently purchased a Tornado and am dicking around with the rigging. It's barberhauler is not set up through the front beam like I've seen on other boats.
Question If I follow the barberhauler from the starboard side, it starts on a block/becket on the jib sheet, travels into the front beam on the starboard side - how, where.
Through the beam to the port side, exits front beam - how, where - and through a jam cleat.
Any help would be appreciated. Looking for ideas - both new and tried 'n true
CatRon
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[Re: CatRon]
#36081 05/24/06 04:21 PM 05/24/06 04:21 PM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | From my Classic Rig up this thread: Barberhauler attached to jib sheet is the blue w. white fleck ending in a block w. becket...line runs out of shot to the right...: ...and into front beam at an opening near the outer gunwale. This opening has an exit block inside the beam, and a camcleat on a bracket outside the beam: ![[Linked Image]](http://www.pbase.com/d30/image/26755453.jpg) Then the line exits on the other side through a similar arrangement, ending at another block w. becket on the jib sheet. You can now haul in the barberhauler from the opposite (ie. windward) side of the boat, causing the jib sheeting point to move forward & outboard on the leeward side. Mike.
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#36083 05/25/06 09:09 AM 05/25/06 09:09 AM |
Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 149 Long Island, NY Catius
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Posts: 149 Long Island, NY | You can now haul in the barberhauler from the opposite (ie. windward) side of the boat, causing the jib sheeting point to move forward & outboard on the leeward side.
Mike.
Mike - I think I have a similar setup on my Mystere. What I struggle with is that if you shorten the barberhauler on one side, you are making it longer on the other side. So at the next tack / gybe, you have to adjust again, the opposite way, right? And if you don't uncleat before the tack/gybe, you'll have to get the crew to crawl to the leeward side to uncleat the barberhauler so you can pull it in... At least that's what I've understood of the system so far...I may be missing a few pieces of the workings here. Comments?
Thomas
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[Re: Catius]
#36084 05/25/06 10:30 AM 05/25/06 10:30 AM |
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Posts: 5,590 Naples, FL | How critical is the barberhauler on these boats?
Jay
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[Re: Catius]
#36085 05/25/06 11:10 AM 05/25/06 11:10 AM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | You've understood it perfectly...it does take some forethought prior to throwing the gybes. Never struck me as a problem...since I grew on on these boats and it became second nature. Now I sail the modern rig with spinny/self-tending jib and have not had to think about the 'hauler' again unitl I saw this post... You can now haul in the barberhauler from the opposite (ie. windward) side of the boat, causing the jib sheeting point to move forward & outboard on the leeward side.
Mike.
Mike - I think I have a similar setup on my Mystere. What I struggle with is that if you shorten the barberhauler on one side, you are making it longer on the other side. So at the next tack / gybe, you have to adjust again, the opposite way, right? And if you don't uncleat before the tack/gybe, you'll have to get the crew to crawl to the leeward side to uncleat the barberhauler so you can pull it in... At least that's what I've understood of the system so far...I may be missing a few pieces of the workings here. Comments?
Mike Dobbs Tornado CAN 99 "Full Tilt"
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#36086 05/25/06 11:11 AM 05/25/06 11:11 AM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | THe 'hauler' was very important for racing to get the jib clew outboard & forward off-wind. Really opened up the slot and prevented backwinding. Not necessary for pleasure-sailing. Mike. How critical is the barberhauler on these boats?
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[Re: Chris_A]
#36087 05/25/06 11:14 AM 05/25/06 11:14 AM |
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Posts: 1,200 Vancouver, BC | Hey Chris & CatRon, You both should join the Tornadocat forum over on the Yahoo Groups...we've got ~200 members and there's lots of photos, advice topics etc. specifically on Tboats. TornadoCat
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#36088 05/25/06 12:18 PM 05/25/06 12:18 PM |
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Posts: 1,187 38.912, -95.37 | Not that I don't enjoy reading/learning about T's and all the other cats in the open forum...why not a Tornado Forum at CatSailor?
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