Some fun with numbers... <br> <br>Look at the sheet again. I added a "percentage of best" column to the length, beam, mast, sail, and weight. The biggest is considered best except in weight. I excluded spinnaker since all do not carry them. I also added an average of those numbers for each boat. <br> <br> I am not really sure what it means, but interesting to look at. Presumably, the highest percentage average is "better".<br><br>Mike Teets <br>Dublin, Ohio <br>I20 #246 <br>M4.3 #59
Mike, Ohio Former H16, H18, N20, N17, M4.3
Thanks Mike, those % do really help
[Re: TeamTeets]
#3749 11/13/0103:04 AM11/13/0103:04 AM
I would however split up sailarea into jib area and mainsail area, because both sails act differently. Example when a catrigged and sloop designs have equal sailarea's than teh catrigged boat will do slightly better upwind but the sloop will do much better downwind to such a magnitude that it more than compensates for it's loss uwind. Only exception to this is really light air where the possibly higher rig of the catrigged boat is much favored. <br> <br>Wouter<br><br>
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
Re: Thanks Mike, those % do really help
[Re: Wouter]
#3750 11/13/0106:15 AM11/13/0106:15 AM
I agree but I don't have all of the jib/main sizes so I cannot do it against all boats. <br> <br>Also, would like to get accurate numbers on EU vs.NA on 6.0 and I20. Is the Fox the same?<br><br>Mike Teets <br>Dublin, Ohio <br>I20 #246 <br>M4.3 #59
Mike, Ohio Former H16, H18, N20, N17, M4.3
I can give you the EU numbers,I think FOX is same
[Re: TeamTeets]
#3751 11/13/0106:27 AM11/13/0106:27 AM
I can give you the EU numbers,I think FOX is same <br> <br>Best is when you look at www.texelrating.knwv.nl <br>for data on sail sizes. <br> <br>Wouter<br><br>
Wouter Hijink Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild) The Netherlands
Re: Tornado and Mystere added to table
[Re: TeamTeets]
#3752 11/13/0108:48 PM11/13/0108:48 PM
Better get the correct numbers first <br> <br>The Mystere 6.0 is exactly 8 feet 9 inches BOA and about 19 feet 9 inches LOA when measured properly. The boat weight is all over the place with the latest boats reported under 400 pounds. So much for one design or fair racing. <br> <br>The last time I measured a Tornado mast it was 32 feet with a boat weight of 350 pounds. I think these are some of the B-class rules which the Tornado(old) is. <br> <br>The iF20 rules state a max LOA of 6.12m not 6.10m. This is just under 20 feet 1 inch. Since many boats have been built under that rule, it should also stand for NA - F20. Since the Fox and I20 hulls are iF20 class legal, they may also measure nearer to 20 feet 1 inch LOA. Factory specs are not to be trusted for the purpose of comparing makes and models. <br> <br>Marc <br> <br><br><br>
Re: Tornado and Mystere added to table
[Re: mhb]
#3753 11/13/0109:36 PM11/13/0109:36 PM
Mark, <br> <br>I couldn't agree more. We need to throw the Manufactures specs in the trash as our first item. I don't know where they measured my H20 but It is no where near their measurement. We need to independently measure all boats and sails. <br> <br>Texel info is probably a fair source. <br> <br>Mike Hill <br>H20 #791 <br><br><br>
Mike Hill N20 #1005
Re: Tornado and Mystere added to table
[Re: Mike Hill]
#3754 11/14/0107:03 AM11/14/0107:03 AM
I would be glad to keep a manufacture table and a measured table... but unfortunately I don't own one of each boat to measure although I will run that past my wife tonight... wish me luck.<br><br>Mike Teets <br>Dublin, Ohio <br>I20 #246 <br>M4.3 #59