| Sheet/line management? #58584 10/07/05 09:23 AM 10/07/05 09:23 AM |
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 292 Ontario, Canada Captain_Dave OP
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Posts: 292 Ontario, Canada | After sailing my H16 (mostly solo) I have found that just managing the jumble of lines on the tramp to be a real handful at times - especially in stronger winds when things start to happen fast. On a few occassions, I have found myself getting tangled around the ankles and thinking to myself - oh crap, don`t flip it now! To date, a good portion of the sailing I have done has been on bodies of water that are relatively small - tacking and jibing are occurring every few minutes or less. So, I feel fairly rushed with managing those lines... At this point, I am better at tacking/jibing (with or without the jib) than I am at sailing/trimming. In addition to the jib and mainsheets, I have a line for the downhaul and another for the jib traveller setup, but the real culprits are the jib and mainsheets. I suspect that once I am out on the wire more often (next season), the lines will be somewhat less jumbled whilst extending out farther. In the meantime, I would really like to hear of any advice regarding line management. Secrets/tips/techniques/clever devices?... I am all ears. Dave | | | Re: Sheet/line management?
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#58585 10/07/05 10:45 AM 10/07/05 10:45 AM |
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO hobienick
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | I leanted to sail my Hobie on a small lake in the Midwest. When tacking you backwind the jib so all you have to worry about is the mainsheet at first. Get that settled then bring the jib over. I usually don't mess wiht the downhaul when rec sailing unless there is major change in the wind. You can also ignore the traveler lines until after you get under way.
I keep the mainsheet under my legs. My legs are long enough that they are bent so there is plenty of clearance beneath. I keep the main sheet on my side closest to the bow of the boat.
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Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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#58587 10/07/05 12:31 PM 10/07/05 12:31 PM |
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | Even when I have crew aboard I backwind the jib. Yes, it slows the boat's speed down, but reduced the amount of time it takes to complete the tack. Here is the procedure I use.
1) Fall off to gain some speed and add some momentum. 2) Begin to head up in a smooth and cotrolled manner. Sheet the main in as you do this. THe main should be near center before the next step. 3) As the bows point into the wind move to the new windward side. 4) After the bows have just gotten through the wind the main battens will "pop". When this happens sheet out about 6" to 12". 5) Finally bring the jib over and take off.
I have found that the boat will almost come to a stop. But, the backwinded jib will push the bows the rest of the way around. If you don't let the main out a little the boat will try to weathervane into the wind and you will have enourmous weather helm. So much that you can't keep the boat on the desired course.
When you get this procedure down you will be able to tack on a dime. 4)
Nick
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Previous Boats '84 H16 '82 H18 Magnum '74 Pearson 30 St. Louis, MO
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#58588 10/07/05 01:17 PM 10/07/05 01:17 PM |
Joined: Apr 2004 Posts: 217 West Texas JaimeZX
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Posts: 217 West Texas | Backwinding is most useful in heavy air tacking. In light & medium air flying the jib across is much easier (after some practice) because you keep your speed (and steerageway) up. Dave, right now with the non-adjustable-on-the-water downhaul I just set it on the beach and then tie it off; I use the tail of that line to wrap up the main and jib halyards and hang them neatly from the gooseneck. If I'm single-handing in light air I keep the jib sheet up at the front of the tramp and the mainsheet-traveler line in the center in the back. I dunno if you have the old setup like I did with a jam cleat on either side of the rear crossbar and two traveler lines for letting the mainsheet block out? Or do you have the newer style like I do where there is a single mainsheet/traveler line? Anyway... the biggest problem I've had is in heavy air and waves where the mainsheet will get washed off the back of the tramp, and since I'm trapped out there's not much I can do about it except stop, heave-to (always fun in heavy air and waves) and retrieve it. Of course if I have crew then I can holler at them to retrieve it and keep moving. If I"m on the wire solo then I usually steer with my left hand, have the mainsheet in my right, and I keep the jibsheet under my foreward toes just in case I need to adjust it. (I do not yet have the quick-adjust-with-line-jib-traveler-setup but I plan to get that here shortly along with a new tramp and running rigging. )
Warm regards,
Jim
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#58591 10/07/05 06:59 PM 10/07/05 06:59 PM |
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 5 Wilmington, NC scottshillsailor
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Posts: 5 Wilmington, NC | howard, I have often been bothered by the mainsheet being washed overboard between my two- peice tramp, and once it is gone it is verry diffficult to get it back onboard at speed, so i think some sort of mesh under the tramp could be a great addition. also, where are you in North carolina? I live and sail a little in wilmington but spend much of my summers at camp don lee close to oriental.
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#58595 10/10/05 06:22 AM 10/10/05 06:22 AM |
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Posts: 306 St. Louis, MO | Hobie does sell that strip. It takes care of the disappearing main sheet problem.
Nick
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