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F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT #76513
05/31/06 10:49 AM
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Hey Team,

I'm thinking about doing this event - www.sanfranciscospeed.com . I've some apprehensions due to past calamity (floating turtle into the open ocean...), in this part of the bay. I'm pretty much assured of some high speed crashes ( 25- 30kts.wind velocity expected...) ; but suspect the boat might be alot faster than most would predict and would like to validate this...

I know a Tornado and an Open 40 catamaran are entered. How will the F16 do relative to these (lets say in 25kts. ...) on speed ? Can the F16 break 20kts. under any conditions for a 500 M mean ? Your thoughts regarding boat setup etc (how flat can I make the kite ....?).

Thoughts?

Paul

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Re: F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT [Re: pkilkenny] #76514
05/31/06 03:08 PM
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Paul, Wanna do it 2-up? That will add safety and still get the F16s on the record book.
Eric


Eric Poulsen
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Re: F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT [Re: ejpoulsen] #76515
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Paul, Wanna do it 2-up? That will add safety and still get the F16s on the record book.
Eric


Yes !!

Thanks Doc ! I'll call you tonite

PK

Re: F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT [Re: pkilkenny] #76516
06/26/06 08:11 AM
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Did you participate? Not much info on the boats at the website....


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Re: F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT [Re: tshan] #76517
06/26/06 08:19 PM
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Paul and I simply counldn't connect to do the event. By all reports, conditions were lighter than usual at the SF City front. The results on the website are a bit confusing. This was their inaugural event. MAybe we'll try it next year.


Eric Poulsen
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Re: F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT [Re: ejpoulsen] #76518
06/27/06 09:29 AM
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So what was the wind, and how fast was the fastest guy, sailig what? I had my gps show me doing 16mph on a Hobie 14 (in 25 knots of wind) so I would think a F16 with spinnaker could easily do 20 on a proper reach/run.


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Re: F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT [Re: Timbo] #76519
06/27/06 09:56 AM
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20 mph = 17.3 knots. I have a few tracks showing that speed on a F16. So yes an F16 will go that fast although it gets much harder with every additional knot.

I think the max recorded F16 speed is just over 18 knots right now. I think 20 knots is achievable by a skilled crew under pretty normal conditions, but that will be quite close to the real top speed of the design.

In special conditions like really flat water and such, a little more could be achieved but I dare not estimate how much more. By that time you are really sailing on the edge.

Wouter


Wouter Hijink
Formula 16 NED 243 (one-off; homebuild)
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Re: F16 SPEED SAILING EVENT [Re: Wouter] #76520
06/27/06 01:59 PM
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The SF Bay area is known for high winds but rough water as there is a very fast tide running out, with a good wind blowing in, funneled under the Golden Gate Bridge. Great for windsurfers who like to jump waves but I don't know about speed sailing on a cat!


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