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[Re: Chris9]
#76580 06/01/06 07:39 AM 06/01/06 07:39 AM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | If you want to sail in it buy yourself a hobie.
This has just disqualified madcatter as a great regatta ! Wouter
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#76583 06/01/06 10:15 AM 06/01/06 10:15 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 123 Syracuse, NY deq204
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Posts: 123 Syracuse, NY | Wouter's derogatory comment aside (you just can't help yourself can you? (don't answer that))...
... you can only do what you can do as far as how much you can offer the sailors. But the thing that seems to be best remembered, both good and bad, form regattas both big and small, is keeping everyone together. That is, if it's spread out too much, people don't intermingle. It's the co-mingling that seems to provide the camaraderie atmosphere that people like.
The more centralized the regatta, the better as far as I’m concerned. After that - remember - the regatta is for the sailors, offer them everything you can, within your budget and workload. The more volunteers the better. | | | Re: what makes a regatta great?
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#76584 06/01/06 10:32 AM 06/01/06 10:32 AM |
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Posts: 1,226 Atlanta | Great regattas are large professionally run events with good people (both your competitors and the regatta support people), good venue and good wind. well run racing, good turnout, good food, good facilities are all assumed in the above statement. Newport Regatta comes to mind. I'm not sure if they have a catamaran class this year, it might be an opportunity for a beach cat class to participate in an excellent regatta. The HT class did the Newport Regatta for 2 years and it was excellent. We paid to have Randy Smythe come and give us a clinic one year on the Friday prior to racing. The races committees are top notch. The venue is extrodinary, right on the lawn next to Newport Sailing center, Sail Newport, the spot of the ex Newport AC bases. The town of Newport ranks right up with Annapolis as the hot sailing spot on the east coast. If you can get your class invited it would be well worth your time. http://www.sailnewport.org/npt/m/_general/05volksreport.aspIf you want to know what great is, I suggest you check out this one. | | | Re: what makes a regatta great?
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#76585 06/06/06 11:13 PM 06/06/06 11:13 PM |
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Posts: 16 Austin, TX | Venue - Pick a scenic catamaran accessible area and the season when the winds are more or less dependable. Examples: Great Texas, Tybee 500, Hill Country, almost any regatta between P'cola and P'city Fleet - a friendly fleet of competent racers who are open and accessible to newbies and who are also willing to take on some of the tasks of hosting a regatta. Examples are compiling lists of inside knowledge on local hotels, non-sailing attractions for families, maps or nautical charts, restaurants or marine supplies. Examples: Mid-Americas, RTI, Mug Race, GT, Spring Fever Conditions - Wide sandy beaches, free of overhead power lines, forgiving local constabulatory, wind and lots of it. Examples: GT, Juana's, Tybee Inclusiveness - Everyone is welcome, the only criteria for inclusion is love of sailing. Examples: Hill Country, Deep South, Ruff Rider, Spring Fever. | | | Re: what makes a regatta great?
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#76586 06/07/06 09:02 AM 06/07/06 09:02 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | Wouter's derogatory comment aside (you just can't help yourself can you? (don't answer that))...
... you can only do what you can do as far as how much you can offer the sailors. But the thing that seems to be best remembered, both good and bad, form regattas both big and small, is keeping everyone together. That is, if it's spread out too much, people don't intermingle. It's the co-mingling that seems to provide the camaraderie atmosphere that people like.
The more centralized the regatta, the better as far as I’m concerned. After that - remember - the regatta is for the sailors, offer them everything you can, within your budget and workload. The more volunteers the better. I agree with your sentement here regarding regattas. But your jab at Wouter in this case is wrong. You need to police your own as well if your going to make comments like that. Chris9's comment was a stupid one.
David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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[Re: Tom Korz]
#76590 06/07/06 01:01 PM 06/07/06 01:01 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA David Ingram
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Posts: 3,906 Clermont, FL, USA | If you're going call a guy out in the Netherlands for making a derogatory reply to a derogatory post then you damn well better call out the person that initiated it. I'm ready for this [censored] storm the Hobie edict caused to die. If for some reason some of the hobie folks want to keep throwing it into our face then I certainly don't see where that is good for the sport of multihull racing, do you?
I enjoy giving Wouter a boot in the nuts as much as the next guy but in this case Chris9 earned it.
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David Ingram F18 USA 242 http://www.solarwind.solar"Do or do not. There is no try." - Yoda "Excuses are the tools of the weak and incompetent" - Two sista's I overheard in the hall "You don't have to be a brain surgeon to be a complete idiot, but it helps"
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#76592 06/07/06 02:04 PM 06/07/06 02:04 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | I think Chris9 might have been attempting to be sarcastic - he's a Nacra 20 sailor. Benefit of a doubt?
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#76595 06/07/06 02:18 PM 06/07/06 02:18 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD Mark Schneider
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Posts: 3,116 Annapolis, MD | Actually, Chris is not a hobie edict supporter at all.
He once upon a time sailed a hobie and always enjoyed the 204 regatta effort… something about rum squall’s... In his opinion… it is just a great time with all of the features of a great regatta.…. (All be it cold.)
What got lost was the sarcasm that he usually attaches to the Hobie only thing.
So his personal standard of a great regatta doesn’t factor in… who gets to come play…. That’s it. Period.
PS… you would not knock a national one design or formulae championship back on the great regatta scale just because the other classes are not invited.
So… Fleet 204 is like a yacht club which denies a class a start… It’s impact is compounded by all of the yacht clubs in the region denying a class a start…. Doesn’t happen anywhere else that I know of and I don’t see any evidence that it grows the sport of cat racing.
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