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#85457 09/25/06 09:25 AM 09/25/06 09:25 AM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | The Blade is this year's boat (the actual Championship will be held in early 2007). I cannot answer for how it handles the weight - I'll leave that to the F16 / Blade class to answer.
The process for a boat to become the next US SAILING Multihull Championship for the Alter Cup is a bid process where a manufacturer and a host sailing club put together a bid and submit it to the US SAILING Multihull Council to be voted on. There are bids in the works at the moment for next year but nothing has yet to be formally proposed and/or voted on.
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#85461 09/25/06 11:41 AM 09/25/06 11:41 AM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Ken,
I understand and appologize for the delay. I can now tell you that it will very likely be nearest the end of April. We really hope to have a final date hammered in place by the end of this week.
Jake
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#85463 09/25/06 12:03 PM 09/25/06 12:03 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe Wouter
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | 420 - 430 lbws = 190 - 195 kg
That is just too much. You won't be competitive with that combined weight.
Try to stay within 130 - 160 kg. Preferably withing 135-145 kg.
And learn to trim well. These are low drag boats not power boats. The crew with the best trim skills will be very favored.
Wouter
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Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 12,310 South Carolina Jake
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | Thanks Jake!
Can the date of the event change? It is a little cold up here in March. Yes. Date is flexible.
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Posts: 1,121 Eastern NC, USA | per Jake/John: Qualifiers for the Championship will sail the Blade 2-up. I paraphrased, of course.
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | If one up is allowed, what is the competitive weightrange?
70 kg - 95 kg is competitive range with 75-85 being optimal I think. But the spinnaker handling requires so much skill that the onus of competitiveness is really very much shifted to skill rather then skipper weight. Getting that kite up and drawing or getting is down and carving a tight turn through the gate are just difficult things to execute perfectly. If you don't then you easily throw away 10's of meters or seconds. Going wide through the gate is especially hurtful. Wouter
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In the past 1-up sailors could qualify themselfs for the event. Kirt Simmons even did that on his Taipan 4.9 back in 2001 I believe.
Wouter
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#85472 09/25/06 06:38 PM 09/25/06 06:38 PM |
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. Timbo
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Posts: 6,049 Sebring, Florida. | I know of several Uni sailors who have qualified solo, but had to get crew to race the Alter, which brings up the question, why can't a Uni boat be used once in a while for the Alter Cup? Is it in the "charter" of the Alter Cup that it always be sailed on a -two up- boat? I would love to see it done on 10 new Nacra 17's, or A2's or the Blade Uni. No excuses that way. Maybe every 5th year they could go solo?
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#85473 09/25/06 06:52 PM 09/25/06 06:52 PM |
Joined: Jun 2001 Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California John Williams
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Posts: 3,293 Long Beach, California | Great idea, Tim - let me know as soon as you get those ten boats lined up. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#85474 09/25/06 06:53 PM 09/25/06 06:53 PM |
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Posts: 12,310 South Carolina | For the qualifier or for the Cup? It was my understanding 1-up was ok for the qualifier! Sorry - I thought he was talking about this Alter Cup itself. For qualifiers it has to be a beach cat with a non-bracketed Portsmouth handicap number. The qualifiers will be scored in one handicap fleet.
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