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#96189 01/15/07 05:45 PM 01/15/07 05:45 PM |
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | The Nacra 18-square is 18 feet long. It has the same hulls as the Nacra 5.5 -- just wider beam.
It is impossible to imagine that it has 324 square feet of sail in main alone -- almost 90 sq. ft. more than the original Tornado that had main and jib. So I'm not buying the idea that 18-square refers to the sail area.
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#96190 01/15/07 06:13 PM 01/15/07 06:13 PM |
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Posts: 9,582 North-West Europe | Somebody had a great evening leading you on the believe that the 18 sq. had 324 sq.ft of sail area ! It truly is 18 sq. mtr. see http://www.watersportverbond.nl/data/5Z2_numdet1_3-7-2006.pdfLook for nacra 18m2, the m2 stands for meters-squared. The nacra 16 square is just above it under the name nacra 16vm, vm here stands for "vierkante meter" which in Dutch means "squared meters" Interestingly enough the true sail area is a little less then 16 sq. mtr. but then again the hulls are longer then 16 feet either. Halve the time I don't understand what Nacra is doing with their models. But anyway the 18sq truly refers to the mainsail area. Wouter
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#96191 01/15/07 06:41 PM 01/15/07 06:41 PM |
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Posts: 163 Atlanta | The Nacra 18-square is 18 feet long. It has the same hulls as the Nacra 5.5 -- just wider beam.
It is impossible to imagine that it has 324 square feet of sail in main alone -- almost 90 sq. ft. more than the original Tornado that had main and jib. So I'm not buying the idea that 18-square refers to the sail area. 1 square meter is 10.76 square feet, so 18 square meters is only about 194 square feet. | | | Re: Nacra 16 square
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#96192 01/15/07 07:34 PM 01/15/07 07:34 PM |
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Posts: 5,558 Key Largo, FL & Put-in-Bay, OH... | I weigh about the same as you and find the Nacra 16ft square a good challange. It was on this thread, and then it was said that the 16ft square refers to sail area, just as for the 18 square. Nothing was said about meters. Sorry if I am being a dumb blonde again. However, this is the first time I have ever heard that 18-square refers to the sail area. I thought it referred to its length and the fact that it is so WIDE. So, are you saying that if the sail area is 18 square meters, ANY boat can be an 18-square, regardless of the length and width of the boat? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> | | | Re: Nacra 16 square
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#96193 01/15/07 07:37 PM 01/15/07 07:37 PM |
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Posts: 1,479 Thailand | Yes and besides the 16 square they also produced an 18 square (no longer in production) and a 14 square. <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> Okay, but I have never heard of a Nacra 16, period. Maybe it is called something else in the U.S.? Or maybe we don't have it in the U.S. at all.
All the Nacras in North America are named in terms of meters, not feet. So why would there be a Nacra in Europe and in Australia that is described in terms of "feet" instead of meters? <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#96197 01/17/07 10:43 AM 01/17/07 10:43 AM |
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Posts: 371 Michigan, USA | So, are you saying that if the sail area is 18 square meters, ANY boat can be an 18-square, regardless of the length and width of the boat? Length is controlled, not to exceed 18 ft. Width is not controlled. Back in the 80's, they had a Cat. II that was also limited by mast circumference (20" max.) and weight (not less than 330 lbs.). Very open rules for this class of cat!
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#96199 01/19/07 07:40 PM 01/19/07 07:40 PM |
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Posts: 195 Straight Outta Hell | Hi John, give Pat hugs and hello from Jay and tami... You know we have 18 Squares, and would sure love to see you get one. So would Andrew Tatton. It'll sure be a good boat for your weight. You can duke it out with Tatton, and when here, you can duke it with us... But why is the Acat out? I thought there was a fella there Houston way who was something over 6 ft and 250lb racing an A, aw, what was his name... anyway, you can choose a rig that will complement your size.... talk to Ogletree... Like I say, I'd sure love to see you get a Square. Square data from a two-Square owner: 18 Square refers to sail area, which is something like 194 sq ft, eg 18 Square Meters. Max hull length is 18 ft/5.5metres. No max beam. If your boat allup weight is less than 330lb, you're Category I. 330 or more, you're Cat II. And that's just about it for class rules, the 18 Square is a development class. Y'all might remember WILD TURKEY, the solid-wing 18 Square... There is a webpage for the 18 Square http://www.geocities.com/mec_coleman/18square.htmClass rules, data, pix, all there. Sometimes it's fun to play with yourself. Fly 18sq.
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#96200 01/19/07 08:08 PM 01/19/07 08:08 PM | Anonymous
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Yea there is a guy racing out of HYC at 250 that they say is deadly. Bob Hodges may know his name. They have told me with A it it just time on the boat and you can have mast and sail cut to your weight. I hope to sell H17 some day and get an A. I would not let weight keep him from getting a n A.
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