Tback thanks. I see your point about short races. If I were in the front of the pack I probably wouldn't trap out, but if it were a "what do I have to lose" scenario then I would. I find that it is a lot easier to drive downwind from the wire. Easier to see the spin/waves/feel the puffs. also easier to look at the leeward bow too. It does, however, take time to set yourself in correctly (most of the time I go over under spin solo is when I am going out on the trap) so you can certainly lose time there. In the end, it is a situation wherein a mark needs to be made in a GPS for C mark and then you can look at VMG directly to see whether one is truly faster than another. I am not going to be sailing my boat anytime soon so reminf me to do that in a couple months.