Yeah, what IS the right answer to that question ?

They tried twice and the first time they got knocked over, the second time they heard a really unfriendly noise and they decided to turn back. At least that is what the reports tell us.

Now you decide whether they were defeated by the surf or whether they balanced the boat+crew to the conditions and decided that prudence was the better side of valour.

Anybody calling Mitch and Herbert newbies is just plain stupid, nor do I think that I even hinted at such a thing. I also do not recall that anybody (including) myself called Mitch and Herbert above themselfs.

It is funny how easily rumours are started.

Say, did your wife recover okay from the beating you gave her, Rolf ?

With respect to F16's in the pictures. Well all the Hobie 17's, Hobie 18's, Hobie FX-ones, Hobie 20's, Hobie 14's and Hobie foxes (F20 versions) that we see in the pictures (NOT !) were blocking them from the view.

Wouter