I would add that many of those guys train a lot, have coaches and sail in those conditions year round. As the wind built and the wave size increased they did better and better. When I did get a good start and rounded A in good position I would get passed downwind by the good ocean sailors. Sailing in a real 18-20 knots and 5-6ft waves can be very difficult when you sail on lakes. Great learning experience on rigging and driving. The attachment shows Sarah Bisesi (10)and Scotty Alter(12) racing. Letting thier dad's drive for now.