Jake wants; "We are 10 seconds below the line... a gap is opening below us," or "We are three boatlengths below the line, JW has us closed out - start ducking." He can't help it - as an engineer, he needs quantified data, not subjective opinion.

Cuh-RACK that whip! <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

John Williams

- The harder you practice, the luckier you get -
Gary Player, pro golfer

After watching Lionel Messi play, I realize I need to sail harder.