All I'm saying is that the problems we face in cat sailing aren't due to a lack of availability of designs [quite the contrary IMHO] but more, a severe lack of consensus within our ranks. We are significantly fragmented and disorganised. We don't have a 'grand plan'. We don't have a plan full stop! We are not only unsupportive and dismissive of efforts within our discipline to move forward, we seem to even actively campaign against each other.

Wouter, by all means go ahead and do the F12 [not that you need my permission God forbid] but I just wonder why you think an F12 will be any more successful than the F14 effort. Maybe Europe will be more accommodating, I hope so.

After the sham I've experienced here I guess I'm bitter and should just shut up and go fishing but you know, sadly, I just can't help myself <img src="http://www.catsailor.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />