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Afterall then that is only their tool to preventing a succesful split off to happen that basically spells the end of ISAF.

Then they will mouth us with sweet promises till the window of opportunity for creating an alternative is over and then they can get back to giving us the boot !

And if anyone it thinking :"why would ISAF want to prevent a split off at all"

Once a viable alternative has been formed they will have lost their monopoly and with it the benefits that comes from forcing everybody and any financial revenue stream through their own organisation. They can also kiss their ownership of the "worlds" title good bye.

So I Rick wants to hold the Wave Worlds and ISAF gets down on it like a ton of breaks the rival organisation can ban any and all ISAF officials from ever racing any multihull or moth. In case you hadn't noticed, many big mono sailors also do stints on multis.

We do you think the EU community was formed ? Not because we agree with each one many points. It was because when the US placed import tarifs on EU steel, the EU could effectively ban US grain export to EU and force the US to reconsider its "interesting perception of free trade"

Without power you (we) are free to be ignored and hassled. With power they'll think twice.

I say, keep working from within but build up a far better powerstructure (negociation leverage) by having our own international organisation with the moths etc.

Currently we have a real shot at because guys like Bundock, Booth and Veal are all for it. With guys like that as ambassadors and promoters we have a REAL viable shot at it.

I for one will not trade that away for some local US sailing Multihull Council promise that things will be better next time.

Sorry Guys, US sailing screwed us over big time recently. Remember their support for no less then 2 multihulls ?

They can promise the world to us but I don't believe them.

The US-sailing multihulls council better bring back some real bacon, and soon, to proof their influence. I thinking about US sailing publically supporting the RYA public letter and proposal and ask for a re-vote.

If the MHC can not negociate this for us then they will have been played for fools by the mono and keel boat guys in US sailing, AGAIN. It will just be more useless promises like supporting 2 cats in the olympics that they are not willing to keep anyway.

We can excuse ourselves for falling for it the first time, but a second time ????

With respect to the Dutch representative voting against the multis, that story ain't over yet. Also we have a rival multihull organisation to the Dutch sailing federation and most cat sailor belong to that organisation. And I'm quite thankfull for that.

The way I see these rival organisations for multi like UKCRA and NBF are exactly the reason why some effective resistance could be organised on such short notice. Without UKCRA we won't even had a real shot at contesting the ISAF decision. Sure it was made in name of RYA but I'm sure that the polite but upset organising by UKCRA had a huge influence.

I only wish for this setup to be mirrored in other area's and linked up internationally.

Wouter


Why would a split spell the end for ISAF? If youd said if the IOC pulls sailing out of the Olympics then I might agree with you.

FYI UKCRA is not formed in the name of the RYA it is affiliated to the RYA which means the RYA recognises it as a proper INDEPENDANT body as it does class associations.

"I only wish for this setup to be mirrored in other area's and linked up internationally.".... about the only sentence worth reading in this ill informed posting of yours and echoes what I said..... BUT it is only from working from within the system and coming up with logical arguments that UKCRA have been able to work WITH the RYA to try and overturn the vote. TRUST me if we had gone in banging independance and shouting do you think that the RYA would have been so receptive? I'll answer that for you ......NO.

Im NOT saying we shouldn't set up an International Multihull council with each MNA having its own ...quite the opposite I think we should, it would give us a bigger voice, BUT independance at this stage would be a NO.