As far as yardstick goes..... I guess Forster will be a test.

F14 - 77
H17 - 82.5
H16 - 81.5
Mozzie (sp) - 80
TheMightyHobie18 - 78.5
Taipan cat - 76.5

F14s without foils - Berny's 430
F14s with foils - AO

I am not doubting the yardstick of the F14 and Forster will be interesting.

I am questioning the effectiveness of the foils and to this date am not convinced. But hey, if you want to believe, then go right ahead, and I will continue to doubt until convinced otherwise.

Also I am not doubting that the foils reduce pitching or alows you to load up the boat more...... I am questioning at what cost (drag)