that might work in the US where most of you dont have your boats at clubs. In Europe the norm is to have your boat at a club, which is affiliated with the national assoc. like US Sailing which again is an ISAF member. At least here i Norway I would have all kinds of trouble starting a club not affiliated to the national sports organizations which again would tell me that the club would have to be organized under our national sailing assoc. which is affiliated with ISAF.. Without it, no insurance, no money, no support from the local goverment.. How do you break this loop? ISAF is everywhere, which would be good if the organziation worked as it is supposed to.