| Re: Should Area Championships use SCHRS or TEXEL ratings?
[Re: John Williams]
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Posts: 5,525 | How, exactly, do you move the ball forward? You refer to "something" and "somebody". I'm "somebody" what is the "something" you refer to? The "something" is somewhere beyond a periodic post about ratings dissatisfaction. As you can see from this thread, every handicap system has vocal detractors for one reason or another. None of the discussion ever seems to yield change. As Jake suggests, you'll have to bring an idea with some rationale forward for discussion by the entity that can implement it. In this case, if the objective is to see a different system used for scoring Area events, then you'll need to get the Multihull Championship Chairman on-board. That might mean providing some information as to why the change is needed, what you're proposing to change to, and a demonstration of an understanding about who will be affected and how. Mark has articulated well, IMO, what we would want of any handicap system - fair and timely are more important to me than transparency, but I get where he's coming from. John: Thanks for taking the time to respond. But, this where you and I disagree fundamentally: the procedure you recommend, this is just my opinion, is unwieldy in that it is primarily a bureaucratic procedure requiring a significant amount of volunteer time and effort. As I see it, USS is a volunteer group funded by the membership and imo, those paying should determine the rules. If there is a simple majority of paid members who want a change then change should follow. My remedy is to call for a vote on the matter; if there is a proven desire for change proceed accordingly. If a vote for change falls short of a majority...end of story. Cheers!
Pete Pollard Blade 702
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Should Area Championships use SCHRS or TEXEL ratings?
| Mark Schneider | 09/09/10 03:50 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/09/10 04:07 PM |
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| brucat | 09/09/10 05:06 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/09/10 05:49 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/09/10 04:47 PM |
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| John Williams | 09/09/10 05:02 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/09/10 06:18 PM |
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| John Williams | 09/09/10 06:50 PM |
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| John Williams | 09/09/10 07:14 PM |
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| waterbug_wpb | 09/09/10 07:15 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/10/10 01:07 PM |
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| ThunderMuffin | 09/10/10 01:09 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/10/10 01:14 PM |
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| ThunderMuffin | 09/10/10 01:18 PM |
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| Cheshirecatman | 09/10/10 01:31 PM |
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| ThunderMuffin | 09/10/10 01:39 PM |
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| Jake | 09/10/10 01:53 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/10/10 02:18 PM |
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| Jake | 09/10/10 02:29 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/10/10 02:46 PM |
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| scooby_simon | 09/10/10 03:10 PM |
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| Jake | 09/10/10 03:20 PM |
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| ThunderMuffin | 09/10/10 03:28 PM |
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| catandahalf | 09/10/10 04:23 PM |
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| _flatlander_ | 09/11/10 01:53 AM |
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| F-18 5150 | 09/11/10 05:02 AM |
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| John Williams | 09/11/10 05:45 AM |
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| waynemarlow | 09/11/10 09:09 AM |
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| Codblow | 09/11/10 09:54 AM |
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| slackwater_sf | 09/23/10 07:36 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/23/10 11:37 PM |
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| Jake | 09/23/10 11:53 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/24/10 12:59 AM |
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| ThunderMuffin | 09/24/10 01:05 AM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/24/10 01:29 AM |
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| Kris Hathaway | 09/24/10 04:17 PM |
Area Championships: Portsmouth, Texel, SCHRS
| slackwater_sf | 09/24/10 04:07 AM |
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| Mike Hill | 09/24/10 02:15 PM |
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| mikekrantz | 09/24/10 02:59 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/24/10 03:28 PM |
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| Mike Hill | 09/24/10 03:47 PM |
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| Tony_F18 | 09/24/10 04:35 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/24/10 04:42 PM |
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| scooby_simon | 09/24/10 07:08 PM |
Area Championships: ratings, ....
| slackwater_sf | 09/24/10 09:14 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/24/10 03:14 PM |
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| Tony_F18 | 09/24/10 03:19 PM |
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| ThunderMuffin | 09/24/10 03:24 PM |
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| Kris Hathaway | 09/24/10 08:02 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/24/10 08:48 PM |
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| ThunderMuffin | 09/24/10 10:02 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/24/10 10:36 PM |
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| scooby_simon | 09/25/10 06:29 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/25/10 09:24 PM |
Measurers : Portsmouth, Texel, SCHRS
| slackwater_sf | 09/25/10 11:34 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/26/10 12:38 AM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/26/10 03:41 AM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/27/10 02:33 AM |
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| scooby_simon | 09/27/10 04:34 PM |
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| Kris Hathaway | 09/27/10 06:22 PM |
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| Tony_F18 | 09/27/10 06:29 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/27/10 09:01 PM |
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| David Ingram | 09/27/10 10:03 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/28/10 02:24 AM |
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| scooby_simon | 09/28/10 07:37 AM |
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| Tony_F18 | 09/28/10 09:45 AM |
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| waynemarlow | 09/28/10 10:19 AM |
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| scooby_simon | 09/28/10 11:34 AM |
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| David Ingram | 09/28/10 01:40 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/28/10 03:11 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/28/10 04:43 PM |
Standard Boats Measured : Texel, SCHRS
| slackwater_sf | 09/28/10 08:57 PM |
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| Jake | 09/28/10 11:50 AM |
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| Isotope235 | 09/27/10 10:50 PM |
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| Jake | 09/27/10 05:22 PM |
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| Kris Hathaway | 09/24/10 07:08 PM |
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| scooby_simon | 09/24/10 03:27 PM |
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| Jake | 09/13/10 04:58 PM |
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| Cheshirecatman | 09/10/10 01:08 PM |
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| Codblow | 09/10/10 03:19 PM |
SCHRS & TEXEL: Rated Length, Crew Weight Calculations
| slackwater_sf | 09/23/10 08:17 PM |
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| SurfCityRacing | 09/10/10 03:04 PM |
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| Mark Schneider | 09/10/10 03:11 PM |
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| Matt M | 09/10/10 03:30 PM |
TEXEL & SCHRS ratings: configuration declared (none?)
| slackwater_sf | 09/23/10 07:29 PM |
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| slackwater_sf | 09/23/10 07:58 PM |
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| waterbug_wpb | 09/10/10 06:05 PM |
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