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Jake,

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And yet the simple question about "what is this project targeting?" goes unanswered and the name calling and insults have begun



How about look 13 posts up and see your question anwered.

I'm truly sorry that in this storm of discussion and design work I've only been able to publically log 2/3's of all content. This thread is only 7 days old already I have over 100 pages of information, drag plots, hull shapes, bouyancy calcs when hit bu a gust and what not.

We are in the design phase right now because it is pointless to go up to a local authority with only a sales pitch but no substance. Not because we don't understand how this works.

Other boats at this time are waaay to expensive to build a youth program on. The boats that are inexpensive enough like the optimist are not that well suited to this role according to comments by for example Rolf and Phill who run youth programs in their area. Before you start on a job you look for the right tool to use. F12 is the tool that many of us have felt missing for a long time.

Are we wrong in this assessment ? We can be, but you guys are just kicking in open doors.

You are not telling us anything we don't know already or know to be false. Nobody is helped by that. As and you guys don't appear to be doing any of this yourselfs, can we then ask that you don't frustrate this effort. For nobody can predict whether this will eventuall work or don't work. But anyone can predict with absolute certainty that it won't work if you are succesful in derailing it.

Hell, if I had a dollar for each time I was told that F16 would never work ..... !


Wouter


I'm not sure why you took all this to be so negative, I never said anything derogatory about the design, never said you guys don't know what you're doing (designing a boat), and never said "it won't work". think it's an interesting project, but one that (currently) doesn't have an implementation plan or a clearly defined customer. I know it's a home built designed for fathers & mothers to build for their kids and that several of you here are chomping at the bit to build. However in order to do genuine marketability and feasibility assessments, it needs to go further than that customer base and will likely be different between local regions. If Joe Blow (who knew little about sailing) decided he was going to build his son a boat, there are a lot of other options out there. Obviously, the general consensus here is not interested in this line of thought at this time so I'll let it be.


Jake Kohl